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re: Dallas PD steals woman’s $100,000 dollars; Praises dog
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:21 pm to Tantal
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:21 pm to Tantal
quote:Wrong. This is literally ALL they have to do. All they need do is assert that it looks fishy. That's about it.
It's not quite that simple. Granted, I've only done one civil forfeiture case related to drugs, but I'm fairly certain that the state has to offer more than just "she has money".
quote:Cool story. The burden of proof is ON THE STATE. Not the burden of likely or the burden of, gee, seems odd or the burden of, come on, who would do that.
Looking at it from the government's perspective, which I don't always agree with, I can't think of a scenario where someone would have $100K in cash on them that wasn't either ill gotten gains or lawful gains that were untaxed where there wasn't a paper trail for it.
PROOF or GTFO
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:22 pm to Tantal
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where there wasn't a paper trail for it
This is the part that she did not have.
The linked article is very weak on details so who knows.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:23 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, do you know how many people have had their casino winnings just point blank stolen from the cops thinks to civil forfeiture? Thousands of people, and they haven’t even had the opportunity to go put it in the bank. “99.99% of the time they’re drug dealers.”
And don't get me wrong.
I suspect that well over 90% of all forfeiture cases are of people who legit have the money for non legit reasons.
But, that ain't how shite is supposed to work in our country. In our country, the government is supposed to have to PROVE that shite. Not just say, "seems likely bad.........no YOU prove it ain't".
That ANYONE thinks this is OK is mind boggling
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:23 pm to Tantal
quote:
I've only done one civil forfeiture case related to drugs, but I'm fairly certain that the state has to offer more than just "she has money".
So if the owner never challenges it, the state has to provide what?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:24 pm to OMLandshark
Yeah, do you know how many people have had their casino winnings just point blank stolen by the cops thanks to civil forfeiture?
You can't leave the casino without paying taxes on your winnings. The IRS knows where you got it before you even take possession of it. Paper trail.
You can't leave the casino without paying taxes on your winnings. The IRS knows where you got it before you even take possession of it. Paper trail.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:25 pm to Black Hole
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I suspect that well over 90% of all forfeiture cases are of people who legit have the money for non legit reasons.
Yes, I’m thinking it’s like 9% that aren’t criminals rather than 99.99% that are criminals as that idiotic poster said. That 9% is worth defending even if the other 91% get away with it.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:26 pm to OMLandshark
One study found that 80% of people subjected to civil asset forfeiture are never charged with a crime connected to the asset.
In 2008, the DOJ’s forfeiture fund topped $1,000,000,000. There’s no profit incentive though.
In 2008, the DOJ’s forfeiture fund topped $1,000,000,000. There’s no profit incentive though.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:26 pm to Speckhunter2012
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In that Marine's case
He should have told the cop to pound sand up his arse. He had no probable cause to search his car.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:27 pm to KCMIZSEC
Then they just bring out the dog and the dog “alerts.”
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:27 pm to the808bass
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So if the owner never challenges it, the state has to provide what?
Well, nothing. Just like any civil case, if one party doesn't show up, it's a default verdict.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:27 pm to Tantal
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You can't leave the casino without paying taxes on your winnings. The IRS knows where you got it before you even take possession of it. Paper trail.
Well I never told those pieces of shite on my casino winnings nor will I ever save for winning a major jackpot. The IRS isn’t going to find out dick on my winnings the last time I was in Vegas, and they can frick off, as can every single person who works for them. People in the IRS and the funeral industry are universally horrible people.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:27 pm to Tantal
So exactly what I said.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:43 pm to OMLandshark
It was probably meant to be a down payment on a painting by Hunter Biden. I feel bad that "the big guy" will be missing his cut.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:47 pm to OMLandshark
That's outrageous. This is the sort of practice that people need to demand be ended.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:59 pm to Tantal
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I highly doubt that it was actually hers.
Sounds great. When does she get to have the state prove their case against her beyond a reasonable doubt?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:01 pm to Tantal
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Just like any civil case, if one party doesn't show up, it's a default verdict.
Because, presumption of innocence and all.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Sounds great. When does she get to have the state prove their case against her beyond a reasonable doubt?
When she shows up and fights for it.
What are the chances?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:33 pm to squid_hunt
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This is disgusting. Hope she owns the police station by the time she's done.
If she was a mule (likely), she won’t do or own anything.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:02 pm to Tantal
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Title should be "Dallas PD confiscates $100,000 of cartel money from Chicago woman." I highly doubt that it was actually hers.
I highly doubt you don't diddle little kids. lets throw you in prison without due process.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:06 pm to OMLandshark
Police are no longer prosecuting theft, so why not partake in it?
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