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With a 14 team SEC, does everyone agree

Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:52 pm
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:52 pm
That one of two things has to happen. Either:

A. The end of permanent rivalry games

or

B. Increasing the number of conference games from eight to nine

Without one of these two things happening, you will play each non-rival school in the other division once every six years, going 12 years between home games.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18155 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:54 pm to
No.. I think that a permanent game continues and we stay at 8 games.. You just play the other teams (6) from the other division on a rotating basis..

Posted by Rose City Rambler
Exiled in Outer Portlandia
Member since Oct 2011
390 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:55 pm to
No. I think the expansion may mean an 8 game schedule keeping the permanent rivalries. But I would much rather a 9 game schedule.
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:58 pm to
Nine conference games would be stupid. SEC teams already beat up on each other enough. With an extra game theres a good chance one SEC team will knock another out of contention for the NC.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4251 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:58 pm to
A primary advantage of a conference is having other teams to play. 9 teams would make a lot of sense. And before folks cry over increased competition, the very same cries were heard over adding Arkansas and SC and a Championship Game.

The SEC's cream will always rise to the top, and 9 games makes sense long-term.
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:04 pm to
The SEC's cream may rise to the top, but moreso the issue is will it rise to the top of the BCS after getting beat a couple of times. It's only happened once, and that was a freak incident.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22051 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:13 pm to
none of the above...

8 game conference schedule...one permanent team, one team rotating...rotating teams played once every 6 years.

Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:17 pm to
I think Chicken has the answer.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:34 pm to
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rotating teams played once every 6 years


man, this expansion thing comes at a heavy price. we used to play 6 conference games in a 10 game season(then went to 7, then 8) and it seemed like we never played auburn, tennessee or georgia. that sucked. now, same thing again. just a damn shame to give them up and probably florida too. it's starting to seem like LSU is the one changing conferences.
Posted by Hawgon
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
1223 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:38 pm to
I say do away with permanent cross divisional opponents and put Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee all in the east if they feel like they have to play each other every year.

Frick em. If they wanted to get pissy about preserving rivalries or perceived recruiting advantages, they never should have agreed to any expansion in the first place.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Posted by rileytiger
In Hamster Cage Running on Wheel
Member since Feb 2007
2036 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:39 pm to
I like answer B.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Frick em. If they wanted to get pissy about preserving rivalries or perceived recruiting advantages, they never should have agreed to any expansion in the first place.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.


Which is why Alabama and Tennessee are voting no to Missouri if the SEC plans on putting them in the West...

So what's your point?
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Either:

A. The end of permanent rivalry games

or

B. Increasing the number of conference games from eight to nine

No. It should be:

A. The end of permanent rivalry games

AND

B. Increasing the number of conference games from eight to nine

We need to do both to get the rotation under 5 years. The best an 8 game sched with no perm x div can do is 7 years.

Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:13 pm to
neither, we won't be at 14 long enough for it to matter
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45876 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:18 pm to
I prefer Dos Equis.

And shitcanning the permanent rival games.

Stay thirsty my friends.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

neither, we won't be at 14 long enough for it to matter

This is possible and if they don't get rid of the perm x div game now, it may be a signal that we will be expanding. However, I think those teams have to come from the ACC. ACC teams are already committed through the 2012 season and their 2013 commitment date is around mid July next year. If there is no movement by then, I think we will be at 14 for a substantial period of time--maybe as much as 20 years like 12.
Posted by signalizer
IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER
Member since Aug 2011
162 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:01 pm to
Everyone seems to be missing what has driven this entire expansion. MONEY By adding the 9th conference game the schools can charge more for those tickets than they do for the Little sisters of the poor OOC games. We will have one permanent opponent and two rotating games. It also gives more conference games to sell to the networks in the renegotiation.


BOOK IT
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 7:02 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27993 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:02 pm to
A - Should happen, but won't.
B - Shouldn't happen.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27993 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Everyone seems to be missing what has driven this entire expansion. MONEY By adding the 9th conference game the schools can charge more for those tickets than they do for the Little sisters of the poor OOC games. We will have one permanent opponent and two rotating games. It also gives more conference games to sell to the networks in the renegotiation.

The 9th game would create too many scheduling inequalities, imo.

Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 7:09 pm to
Here's a crazy thought from the newb... Why not establish the schedule each year based on performance, rivalries, and length of time since last time playing another team in the conference. That way when LSU is down and Vandy is up for a few years the conference divisions can remain balanced. Key rivalries remain, and all teams play others in the conference as much as possible.
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