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Why did Saban never hire Napier to be his offensive coordinator?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:18 am
Why did Dabo fire Napier after one year of being Clemson’s offensive coordinator?
Napier got his feelings hurt after being passed over several times by Saban to be Alabama’s offensive coordinator he decided to leave Bama to be a co-offensive coordinator for Arizona St.
And you simpletons want this guy to be LSU’s next coach?
And the same posters white knighting for Napier are the same posters against a Jimbo hire when Jimbo is the only assistant coach who worked for Saban to win a National Championship.
Makes absolutely no sense.
Napier got his feelings hurt after being passed over several times by Saban to be Alabama’s offensive coordinator he decided to leave Bama to be a co-offensive coordinator for Arizona St.
And you simpletons want this guy to be LSU’s next coach?
And the same posters white knighting for Napier are the same posters against a Jimbo hire when Jimbo is the only assistant coach who worked for Saban to win a National Championship.
Makes absolutely no sense.
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:20 am to CapperVin
because he has 85% of tProcess and talks like Nick visa vie he is the next saban
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:23 am to BilJ
It’s the 15% he’s missing that is holding him back.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:26 am to CapperVin
quote:head coach, not oc. no one wants him to be the oc. But he's been extremely successful as a head coach so far. So, he's an extremely intriguing candidate who will get a shot at a bigger program.
And you simpletons want this guy to be LSU’s next coach?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:29 am to hashtag
So you want another head coach who's success will be dependent on coordinator hires? We’ve been down that road again and it should be a hard pass for anyone who cares about LSU’s success
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:31 am to VolTiger13
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VolTiger13
Throw us a bone
Throw us a bone
Throw us a bone
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:32 am to CapperVin
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Napier got his feelings hurt after being passed over several times by Saban to be Alabama’s offensive coordinator he decided to leave Bama to be a co-offensive coordinator for Arizona St.
Where did you see he was co-offensive coordinator at ASU?
2003–2004 Clemson (GA)
2005 South Carolina State (QB)
2006–2008 Clemson (TE/RC)
2009–2010 Clemson (OC/QB)
2011 Alabama (Analyst)
2012 Colorado State (AHC/QB)
2013–2016 Alabama (WR)
2017 Arizona State (OC/QB)
2018–present Louisiana
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:34 am to BayouCowboy
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2017 Arizona State (OC/QB)
"Coach Napier will be joining the Sun Devil family as lead offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach," said Graham. "He will join newly hired Josh Henson as co-offensive coordinator."
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:38 am to CapperVin
I actually kind of liked Napier early on....the not so subtle campaigning on shows has been a bit of a turnoff.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:39 am to VolTiger13
Billy Napier
The Process ....
He got 85% = Can be a success at ULL
Missing 15% = What it takes at the High's Level of College Football
That sounds like a Hope and Dream to Me
Not buying it ..
The Process ....
He got 85% = Can be a success at ULL
Missing 15% = What it takes at the High's Level of College Football
That sounds like a Hope and Dream to Me
Not buying it ..
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:45 am to LSUcajun77
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Throw us a bone
If we have a hire, probably only 3 people at LSU are in the loop…Woody, Tate, and DeCuir (maybe one of his staff as well).
Not sure on any boosters.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:51 am to CapperVin
Because he hired better offensive coordinators. Duh
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:53 am to LSBoosie
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"Coach Napier will be joining the Sun Devil family as lead offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach," said Graham. "He will join newly hired Josh Henson as co-offensive coordinator."
I hadn't read that. Everything I've seen listed him as THE OC. I actually saw this from when Graham was fired and Herm Edwards was brought in.
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Arizona State people floated the idea that Edwards would more or less be a figurehead and that his assistants, primarily offensive coordinator Billy Napier, would do most of the actual coaching. Retaining defensive coordinator Phil Bennett would also be a huge part of the plan.
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And finally, to put a neat little bow around this circus, Napier took the head coaching job Friday at Louisiana-Lafayette, leaving Edwards without either coordinator, who were both supposedly so integral to making this plan work.
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And if Napier was such an essential part of the blueprint that you gave him the associate head coach title, maybe you should have just made him head coach to begin with.
If Arizona State had just done that, some people would have questioned whether he was ready for the job, but by and large it would have been accepted as a logical move. Napier has been an assistant for both Dabo Swinney and Nick Saban and did a good enough job with the offense last year that Arizona State desperately wanted to keep him.
Instead, Napier took one of the better jobs in the Sun Belt at Louisiana-Lafayette, which isn’t an abandon ship career move. But it sure looks like there’s a more certain future in that than the “New Leadership Model” of Arizona State football it touted in a jargon-heavy press release announcing the Edwards hire.
USA Today
The article roasts Graham and ASU leadership, but honestly reads more like school girl gossip.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:56 am to BilJ
I didn't realize Napier was a QB and his dad was the coach , sound familiar ? Yes I'm comparing to Burrow and anyone who's father was a coach and loves football, I say Napier is going to be good. A student of the game like Saban. Will he be the next Saban ? I don't know but one way to find out.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:57 am to Wrucker16
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Because he hired better offensive coordinators. Duh
It’s an absurd angle from the OP. Napier came to Bama under Nussmeier as OC. Saban decided to implement spread concepts in 2014 and turned to Lane Kiffin vs internal pro model. Brilliant move by Saban and lapped Miles with this move.
We’re hiring for 2022 beyond, not sure if it will be Napier but he’ll be evaluated on ULL record much more so than concerns from over a decade ago.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:01 pm to CapperVin
The thing I find more interesting is that Napier was a position coach on staff when Kiffin was hired. After NS ran off Kiffin, Saban hired Sark who was just a former analyst.
Once Sark was hired, Napier was no longer on the Bama staff. And O'Brien was hired after Sark instead of Napier.
Once Sark was hired, Napier was no longer on the Bama staff. And O'Brien was hired after Sark instead of Napier.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:02 pm to CapperVin
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Makes absolutely no sense
Correct! OP makes no sense. Did all this seem logical to you before you posted it? SMH.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:03 pm to CapperVin
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Why did Dabo fire Napier after one year of being Clemson’s offensive coordinator?
Two seasons. Late 20s, good first season, shitty follow up. He’s admitted he wasn’t ready. This situation is no indication at all of his current coaching ability.
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Napier got his feelings hurt after being passed over several times by Saban to be Alabama’s offensive coordinator he decided to leave Bama to be a co-offensive coordinator for Arizona St.
If you look at the timeline he left Alabama in 2011 after one year as a staff analyst to become AHC/QB Coach under McElwain at CO St. Saban hired Nussmeier to be his OC. In 2013 he returned to Alabama as WR coach. This was all still very early in his career.
In 2014 Kiffin was made OC and stayed on until 2016. Saban picked Daniel as OC in 2017 - a coach who was a GA on his staff at MSU and who had been an NFL coach including 4 years as an OC and 9 as a position coach.
So Napier went to ASU to be OC.
These are just facts. But to answer your question “why not Napier?”, the timing in terms of who was at AL during certain periods had a role in his not being made OC. The only time it looks like he may have been at a point in his career to be qualified to be OC and was “passed” over was in 2017. But you can’t argue with the guy who was chosen in his place.
So he took a promotion elsewhere to be an OC at a P5 school. Smart move, certainly not because he had his “feelings hurt.”
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And you simpletons want this guy to be LSU’s next coach?
This simpleton will be happy if Napier is hired. As I will be if Riley or some others are the pick.
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And the same posters white knighting for Napier are the same posters against a Jimbo hire when Jimbo is the only assistant coach who worked for Saban to win a National Championship.
“For Napier” is not equal to “against Jimbo.” Personally I’m not excited at the prospect because since 2013 he’s done nothing impressive. FSU fell apart under his watch. He’s been at aTm what 3-4 years? He had a top 5 team that’s played poorly and had 2 losses by mid season to avg SEC teams. Kudos on the Bama win, but it’s an outlier. I think Napier has the higher upside and is approaching his prime as a college football coach.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:04 pm to MirrOlure
He’s not getting that extra 15% without a complete 180 on his philosophies of running a program. Has nothing to do with being at a smaller program
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