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What truly separates the elite coaches from everyone else
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:23 pm
It doesn't matter who their assistant are.
Obviously Saban and Meyer surround themselves with good coaches, but it's THEM that is the common thread.
Saban had been thru 5 OCs, he loses Smart, and a bunch of other position coaches. It doesn't matter
Meyer loses Mullen and Gonzalez at UF. Loses Chris Ash and Herman at OSU.
Point is, the head coach is what stirs the drink, period. We can have the best coach in America at every single position, if Ed sucks at HC, the team sucks.
Obviously Saban and Meyer surround themselves with good coaches, but it's THEM that is the common thread.
Saban had been thru 5 OCs, he loses Smart, and a bunch of other position coaches. It doesn't matter
Meyer loses Mullen and Gonzalez at UF. Loses Chris Ash and Herman at OSU.
Point is, the head coach is what stirs the drink, period. We can have the best coach in America at every single position, if Ed sucks at HC, the team sucks.
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:24 pm to Zaq
exactly
No idea why we wouldn't want out HC to be our best coach
No idea why we wouldn't want out HC to be our best coach
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:25 pm to Zaq
They put all of the people around them in positions to succeed. That means they hire the coaches, recruit the right talent, understand how to deploy and organize these resources effectively for maximum effect. They are part strategist, coach, human resource manager, project manager, etc.
There is a reason Great coaches have coaching trees.
Coach O is none of these things.
There is a reason Great coaches have coaching trees.
Coach O is none of these things.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:25 pm to Zaq
Intelligence.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:25 pm to Salmon
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No idea why we wouldn't want out HC to be our best coach
it defies all logic
but it's hilarious to watch people try to spin that reality
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:25 pm to Zaq
I hear it's their dialect and fighting skills, plus if they drink bourbon and make a mean jambalaya that's a plus
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:26 pm to Freauxzen
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They put all of the people around them in positions to succeed. That means they hire the coaches, recruit the right talent, understand how to deploy and organize these resources effectively for maximum effect. They are part strategist, coach, human resource manager, project manager, etc.
they also have an overall plan and everything is geared towards that plan
what is Orgeron's plan? "hire the best coordinator and then when they leave, change everything for the next guy who is the best coordinator"? i know you've touched on this but i'm just phrasing it a different way
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they also have an overall plan and everything is geared towards that plan
Exactly.
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what is Orgeron's plan? "hire the best coordinator and then when they leave, change everything for the next guy who is the best coordinator"? i know you've touched on this but i'm just phrasing it a different way
Nope, this is precisely his plan, a revolving door of coordinators.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jim Harbaugh loses DJ Durkin
Are you watching their D right now?
Are you watching their D right now?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:28 pm to Zaq
So by your theory, it was Miles, not Pelini, Chavis or Aranda who made our defenses great.
Let's hire Miles back.
Let's hire Miles back.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:28 pm to Freauxzen
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his plan, a revolving door of coordinators.
"Binders full of coordinators"
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:28 pm to Freauxzen
its almost like we have to pray our CEO coach doesn't hire a Steele or Cameron.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:29 pm to LSUFreek
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Let's hire Miles back.
i have a feeling we're going to wish we never fired Miles
I am saying that. King of the anti-Miles negatigers
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
i have echoed that already 
make me an aleva scarlett Bitch avatar
make me an aleva scarlett Bitch avatar
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:30 pm to LSUFreek
Les does get credit for our good defenses
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:31 pm to Zaq
Aranda and Kiffin would be here 3 yrs tops. There is no long term plan for O other than remain at 3.5 per year for a long as time and pray he hires the absolute best coordinators.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:34 pm to Freauxzen
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They put all of the people around them in positions to succeed. That means they hire the coaches, recruit the right talent, understand how to deploy and organize these resources effectively for maximum effect. They are part strategist, coach, human resource manager, project manager, etc.
And yet maintain control and authority. It's an art that Saban has nearly perfected!
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:34 pm to Zaq
Well Ed coached up Esminger well.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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at is Orgeron's plan? "hir
Better ask Ponamsky
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:36 pm to Freauxzen
quote:By all accounts, he does recruit extremely well.
They put all of the people around them in positions to succeed. That means they hire the coaches, recruit the right talent, understand how to deploy and organize these resources effectively for maximum effect. They are part strategist, coach, human resource manager, project manager, etc.
There is a reason Great coaches have coaching trees.
Coach O is none of these things.
I'd side with you on the rest if I had to guess but in reality, we don't actually know the answer to that one.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 1:37 pm
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