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What are concrete reasons the option wouldn't work in the sec?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:28 am
i saw people shite all over Niumatalolo on this board. He is consistent and better than Paul Johnson ever was. Saying he is bad because Paul Johnson is bad is like being afraid to hire Petersen because Hawkins was bad.
Why wouldn't his offense work in the sec? Georgia tech runs all over uga many years. Georgia southern ran over bama's great 2011 defense like "shite through a tin horn."
Nebraska ran over some great Miami defenses. GT also is one of the most efficient offenses every year. Their problem isn't offense, it's a lack of recruiting.
Member when people said urban meyer's gimmick wouldn't work in the SEC? Member when meyer fricking hung 51 on lsu? Member when meyer won three nc's with a gimmick offense? Member???
I'm not saying Niumatalolo is meyer, but his record is damn strong and an option would really work with Louisiana athletes as our state just doesn't produce qb's.
Why wouldn't his offense work in the sec? Georgia tech runs all over uga many years. Georgia southern ran over bama's great 2011 defense like "shite through a tin horn."
Nebraska ran over some great Miami defenses. GT also is one of the most efficient offenses every year. Their problem isn't offense, it's a lack of recruiting.
Member when people said urban meyer's gimmick wouldn't work in the SEC? Member when meyer fricking hung 51 on lsu? Member when meyer won three nc's with a gimmick offense? Member???
I'm not saying Niumatalolo is meyer, but his record is damn strong and an option would really work with Louisiana athletes as our state just doesn't produce qb's.
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:31 am to Moustache
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Georgia tech runs all over uga many years.
Many years? I can only remember 2 times in the last 10 years when GT has actually beaten UGA.
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Their problem isn't offense, it's a lack of recruiting.
The offensive scheme actually contributes to that. No good QBs or WRs want to be part of an offense that potentially hinders their development.
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Member when people said urban meyer's gimmick wouldn't work in the SEC? Member when meyer fricking hung 51 on lsu? Member when meyer won three nc's with a gimmick offense? Member???
Meyer ran the spread option, not the triple option.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 10:34 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:32 am to Moustache
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:32 am to Moustache
I think it could work but there are a few things in play here:
1- Your defense is not to get a good look in practice at the kinds of offenses they will face
2- It can be difficult to recruit for because it doesnt get you ready at all for the NFL and some players just plain dont like it
3- There really isn't much of a plan b if you get shut down
1- Your defense is not to get a good look in practice at the kinds of offenses they will face
2- It can be difficult to recruit for because it doesnt get you ready at all for the NFL and some players just plain dont like it
3- There really isn't much of a plan b if you get shut down
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:35 am to Moustache
Holy frick you can't be serious
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:38 am to Moustache
Recruiting. Why would a high level prospect want to play in an offense that doesn't effectively prepare them for the NFL? Georgia Tech sends a few. But they lack overall talent because of the negative view of their type of offensive system.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
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1- Your defense is not to get a good look in practice at the kinds of offenses they will face
I call bullshite on this. Lsu ran I form under les and usually had a great defense. How did our team ever prepare for oregon in 2011?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:40 am to c on z
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Many years? I can only remember 2 times in the last 10 years when GT has actually beaten UGA.
Because gt defense is poo because Johnson recruits like poo and hires poo dcs.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
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- It can be difficult to recruit for because it doesnt get you ready at all for the NFL and some players just plain dont like it
Nebraska players littered the NFL in the 90s. They didn't seem to have problems. This same argument was used against Meyer too and chip. Their players seemed to do just fine.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:43 am to Moustache
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in the 90s
this aint the 90's bro, totally different game today
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:43 am to Moustache
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I call bullshite on this. Lsu ran I form under les and usually had a great defense.
you dont see the difference between a "pro style" i formation and the fricking option???
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 10:44 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:44 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Recruiting. Why would a high level prospect want to play in an offense that doesn't effectively prepare them for the NFL? Georgia Tech sends a few. But they lack overall talent because of the negative view of their type of offensive system.
Why wouldn't running backs want to play in this system? What about the athlete qb who nobody else is giving a chance at qb?
What about oline? Sure no left tackle would want to come here, but you could find guards galore and it neutralizes the other team's pass rush. Pass rushers have been out at a premium but many cant stop the run for shite like Tim Williams, Mykea Garrett, etc
Why would defense players have a problem? Nebraska's defense put many players in the pros
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
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quote: in the 90s this aint the 90's bro, totally different game today
No shite. The point suggested was that Option teams couldn't put defensive players in the NFL, which is completely false. Talent plays in any scheme.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:48 am to Moustache
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Moustache
Another in a long line of tremendous threads for this guy. Keep up the good work.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
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you dont see the difference between a "pro style" i formation and the fricking option???
Of course I do, but you were suggesting that because the defense sees a certain style of offense in practice that they will struggle against other offenses. That seems like bs to me. We had no problem adjusting to spread offense and stopping tamu even with les's bad I form offense
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:49 am to Hot Carl
My stalker! You're back!
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:50 am to Moustache
325 lb lineman aren't built for that offensive scheme. nor should they be, the option offense is designed to alleviate the need to sustain one:one blocks in the interior and to get your guy in space with the ball even if they don't have the speed to create the distance.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:52 am to ccomeaux
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325 lb lineman aren't built for that offensive scheme. nor should they be, the option offense is designed to alleviate the need to sustain one:one blocks in the interior and to get your guy in space with the ball even if they don't have the speed to create the distance.
True. But our state struggles to produce oline also so this kind of hides that weakness. Strong d and run game with an athlete at qb is what our state produces.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:57 am to Moustache
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True. But our state struggles to produce oline also so this kind of hides that weakness. Strong d and run game with an athlete at qb is what our state produces.
The HSs produce what the college guys want them to produce, that's the point of summer coaching camps.
I guess it could be made to work if you re-tooled the state HSs and changed your recruiting methods/targets.
I don't see the option, even the triple option, being able to withstand the weekly defenses we see in the SEC.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:23 am to Moustache
Consider LSU's closing stretch of opponents. Would you want to give the DE's, LB's, DL's from the Black Bears, bama, the hawgs, the gators, the aggies, back to back to back to back to back, shots at your QB for 4 quarters? With the stated goal of making the QB pitch the ball to the RB every play?
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