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re: Steve Logan...anyone notice how awesome he was the year after Ryan graduated?
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:23 pm to shuke33
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:23 pm to shuke33
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Yeah, he basically fixed the tools of what Tom o brien didn't teach.( my dads a BC alum, so if your wondering how I know all this)
Every good QB has natural talent a.k.a "tools". Matt Ryan had them before Logan got there. Unfortunately for Ryan, he wasn't gonna be a top 5 pick in the draft unless a QB coach like Logan coached him up a little bit.
Ryan's junior year: 2939 yards, 15 TDs
Ryna's senior year (Logan was OC this year): 4507 yards, 31 TDs
Logan did his job: he made a talented QB better.
If he could come in and run an effective pro-style offense while coaching up our QBs, he will have earned his pay.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:35 pm to south bama tiger
If Dana and Steve are serious candidates than that would be great.
that correct?
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Ryna's senior year (Logan was OC this year): 4507 yards, 31 TDs
that correct?
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:46 pm to cattus
Yes. Ryan also had 19 Ints but keep in mind BC doesn't produce NFL WRS like they do with their o-line.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:09 am to shuke33
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Yes. Ryan also had 19 Ints but keep in mind BC doesn't produce NFL WRS like they do with their o-line.
He did throw a lot of Interceptions that year. The year before, he threw 10 interceptions, and had about 200 less attempts. Completion % and YPA stayed about the same. QB rating increased marginally after Logan became OC.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:31 am to south bama tiger
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He did throw a lot of Interceptions that year. The year before, he threw 10 interceptions, and had about 200 less attempts. Completion % and YPA stayed about the same. QB rating increased marginally after Logan became OC.
Did he really coach him up if all that really changed was the # of pass attempts? Ryan was hurt most of JR year but still managed to be all-acc. It wasn't like this was some guy whose talent was wasting away and then all of a sudden it clicked when Logan showed up.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 9:47 am to ZTiger87
So most of the difference between his jr and sr year was that he threw the ball more? Interesting. Never really broke it down like that. Thanks for the note.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:19 am to footwedge
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So most of the difference between his jr and sr year was that he threw the ball more? Interesting. Never really broke it down like that. Thanks for the note.
The difference is this...
JR year= ultra conservative, play not to lose under Tom O'Brien. Took less chances.
SR year= He had a gunslinger mentality, after Brett Favre gave him a few calls.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:33 am to footwedge
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did they say if he called plays while he was the hc?
Logan called the plays at ECU.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:49 am to Sophandros
Know anything else from his tenure at ecu, sophandros? Offense style, stats, etc. Thanks.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:22 pm to ZTiger87
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Did he really coach him up if all that really changed was the # of pass attempts? Ryan was hurt most of JR year but still managed to be all-acc. It wasn't like this was some guy whose talent was wasting away and then all of a sudden it clicked when Logan showed up.
There aren't many examples in history of a guy being a "nobody" and then miraculously turning into an NFL top 10 pick.
You have to have talent to do things well. No coach can win without talent.
With LSU's talent level, I think Logan could have a ton of success.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 6:31 pm to footwedge
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Know anything else from his tenure at ecu, sophandros? Offense style, stats, etc. Thanks.
Don't know much about Logan at ECU other than he made them respectable, and was the QB coach there. David Garrard is another NFL QB he coached.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 6:48 pm to OBUDan
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There aren't many examples in history of a guy being a "nobody" and then miraculously turning into an NFL top 10 pick
My point was that he wasn't a Carson Palmer where you figured the guy was just never going to get it and then all of a sudden a new coach came along and it clicked. Ryan was already a very good QB when Logan came along. I'm sure Logan helped him some, but no one should ever give Logan credit for developing Matt Ryan.
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With LSU's talent level, I think Logan could have a ton of success.
You could say that about a lot of coaches though. Look, I wouldn't be upset if Logan got the job, I just don't think he should be at the top of the list.
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 6:51 pm to ZTiger87
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I'm sure Logan helped him, but no one should ever give Logan credit for developing Matt Ryan.
isn't that contracting? He should get credit for taking his game to the next level.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 7:22 pm to adammwilson
ryan didn't go "to the next level"
he just threw the ball more
he just threw the ball more
Posted on 12/1/10 at 7:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ryan didn't go "to the next level"
so without Logan you still think he is a top 5 pick?
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