Pushing a successful coach out is dangerous.

RC Slocum at A&M is another great example in support of your point.

Sometimes you get stuck in a rut. Texas was not going to win anything of note under Mack, he was tired out and there was no more energy in the program.

Tennessee I agree completely with you, Fulmer should still be there.

However you are way off on LSU. Cholly only won 1 SEC title. We hired Bo Rein who died so we made a quick hire of former Tiger Jerry Stovall who was up and down, it was a last minute hire. We brought in Arnsparger who proceeded to lay the foundation for 1 SEC title under him and 1 the following year after he left under his DC Mike Archer. LSU lost out at the time because we wouldn't spend the money.

We cheaped out on an in-house hire of Archer and then cheaped out on hiring small school Hallman. By the time we hired DiNardo, we were just starting to realize you have to spend money. DiNardo basically just shite the bed with Coordinators.

I will say Tony Dungy won a ton at Tampa Bay but couldn't get over the hump. They brought in Gruden and he won the damn Super Bowl. Sometimes you just need an influx of new energy. It really just comes down to the hire.

Larry Coker is another example. 3 straight BCS bowl games, then 9-3, 9-3, 7-6. Coker should have been fired, but they've been horrible since.

I'm not saying they shouldn't fire Miles...but you better have your top choice committed before you pull the trigger.

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RC Slocum at A&M is another great example in support of your point.

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To my dying day I will argue that he got buttfricked by Wally Groff's tightwad ways. Need new and upgraded facilities? frick you, it was good enough for Old Army, it's good enough for you. Need money to retain your coaching staff? frick you, make due. Want an office that has more than two chairs and isn't located in a parking garage? frick you, if you don't stop your bitching we'll take away the piss trough in the men's room on your floor. Death by a thousand cuts is a mother fricker.

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So what's the difference between those program and Miles? You're saying LSU has waited too long then?

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No but LSU needs to do it now. When you look at the fall off since 1/9 it makes sense to make a change.

What you're missing is that all of those programs kept those coaches around too long and the recruiting got stale. We want to make a change before we start to see the recruiting classes drop off making the transition far more difficult for whomever we get as a replacement (as evidenced by all of the schools mentioned on this thread).

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Pushing a successful coach out is dangerous.

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Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. ohio st pushed Tressel out and then they won a Natty.

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I don't think LSU should fire Les because he can still recruit. Mack Brown was producing zero talent when he got booted and his recruiting was shite AND he wasn't winning.

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Yeah, let's wait until we are Texas bad to change coaches.