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People that want O as coach

Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:50 am
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:50 am
Give me a reason besides recruiting as why he deserves to be the coach of a major college football program. If he's such a great candidate then why hasn't ANY other university given him a shot since Ole Miss? Take away the accent and south la ties and what legitimate reasons are left? I like the man and think he's a great DL coach and recruiter but that's the where the buck stops. It's mind boggling that some of our fans are ready hand the keys over to a coach that has failed miserably before at his previous gig and to top it off Syracuse didn't even want to hire him. Wtf y'all?
Posted by KingBeingking
Member since Jul 2014
2388 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:57 am to
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People that want O as coach


Will be disappointed if he is the coach (underperforming) and disappointed if he isn't the coach.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77580 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Blktiger
Spartanburg, South Carolina
Member since May 2015
1169 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:09 pm to
Not to say he is my top choice,but as a head coach you want a motivater and someone to hire the best assistants and coordinators. Lsu has the money to put togather a good staff that's why people want coach o and coaches want to be around him and he gets 100% out of his players
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9036 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:11 pm to
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Give me a reason besides recruiting as why he deserves to be the coach of a major college football program

Give me a HS coach who can beat Saban in recruiting on regular basis and I will beat Saban.
Posted by Freshwater
Member since Oct 2016
132 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:12 pm to
coach O isn't even in my top 5, but I don't think it would be the end of LSU football like many are making it out to be

You can't argue for Coach O resume wise unless you bring in his record as an interim head coach, but that doesn't hold much weight depending on how you look at it.

I'll give you a pro-O stance:
He'll take less $ which can be put towards pulling in the best OC's and DC's available when needed. So yea, you might be cycling through coordinators every 4-5 years, but you would also be replacing them with great candidates. The argument against that is "what is the coordinator doesn't work out?"

Well, I'd say that mostly every offensive coordinator under Miles "didn't work out" and look how well LSU performed during that time. That's why I think there wouldn't necessarily be a drop off with Coach O (from Miles teams). But again, its about competing with Bama and you want the the best option possible which would be a guy like Herman or Jimbo.

I'm not trying to be pro-O as much as I'm stating that I don't think LSU football would go to shite with O, I see it being slightly better than Miles era at worst (no recruiting drop off, improved offense, defense remains at high level) if LSU is able to pull in top coordinators with $. But yea, Coach O would still be my option E.
Posted by lurkr
Member since Jan 2008
12365 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:14 pm to
Are the same as people who are against coach O for Head Coach. Everyone sounds stupid after the 100th time it is argued over.
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Houston
Member since Apr 2012
2826 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:16 pm to
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hand the keys over to a coach that has failed miserably before at his previous gig


One could argue Herman is doing the same thing this year at Houston, and yet the whole fan base is wanting to suck him off. Look I get theyre 7-2, but they do have a horrendous loss this year. It's something to be noted.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Blktiger
Spartanburg, South Carolina
Member since May 2015
1169 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:29 pm to
I feel the same why Ceo would take less money and we all know as far as recruiting he would stock up the roster for the next coach if he doesn't work out. Another thing of note is Ceo did say how his recruiting would be different than frank wilson was he wanted to go after both lines and bring in qbs. If im not mistaken most lsy fans would agree we need to focus on both lines and qb`s
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:36 pm to
Yeah but isn't it better to have a head coach that can handle the X's and O's himself if these top coordinators bail?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Give me a reason besides recruiting as why he deserves to be the coach of a major college football program. If he's such a great candidate then why hasn't ANY other university given him a shot since Ole Miss? Take away the accent and south la ties and what legitimate reasons are left? I like the man and think he's a great DL coach and recruiter but that's the where the buck stops. It's mind boggling that some of our fans are ready hand the keys over to a coach that has failed miserably before at his previous gig and to top it off Syracuse didn't even want to hire him. Wtf y'all?


You worry too much about what the trends are and what other schools choose to do. And what exactly does "deserve" mean anyway? It's 100% subjective.

People that support him think he has changed enough to be a great coach. Simple as that.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:01 pm to
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I'll give you a pro-O stance:
He'll take less


pretty much the only positive and imo the only reason admin is considering him. he'll work for peanuts because he knows this is the only chance he'll ever get to be a head coach again.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:04 pm to
why do we wanna hire anybody? "they all suck". "and if you like coach ___________, youre an idiot". "give me one good reason why we should hire __________." " my candidate is the best. if we hire _________, we're going back to the 90's."

we should just do a West Canaan and let the players finish out on their own.

I DONT WANT YOUR LIFE!

JESUS, these threads are really fricking redundant and recycled. let it play out. unless you have millions to pony up. and if you do, you should be emailing the athletic dept and not rehashing the same fkin posts.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Not to say he is my top choice,but as a head coach you want a motivater and someone to hire the best assistants and coordinators. Lsu has the money to put togather a good staff that's why people want coach o and coaches want to be around him and he gets 100% out of his players


First thing I want is someone that's an expert in the game. Weird how many people don't list knowledge of football as a top priority.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:40 pm to
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People that support him think he has changed enough to be a great coach. Simple as that.



0 points and 125 yards against Alabama. Please tell me what has changed.
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Give me a HS coach who can beat Saban in recruiting on regular basis and I will beat Saban.


No you wouldn't.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:37 pm to
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One could argue Herman is doing the same thing this year at Houston, and yet the whole fan base is wanting to suck him off. Look I get theyre 7-2, but they do have a horrendous loss this year. It's something to be noted.


One would be a complete dumbshit as well.

Houston before Herman
5-7
8-5
8-5

Herman 2 years
13-1
7-2

Herman lost a bunch off last year's team too. His leading RB, both offensive tackles, his 1000 yard WR, both safeties, both ILBs, DE, CB, and nickel.

Before he came there, their last 3 recruiting classes were ranked 2nd, 5th, and 7th in their own conference, so it's not like he had a talent advantage even in his own conference.

I see Houston finishing this year 11-3 with a second conference championship. If that happens, you'll have a guy who has gone 24-4 with 2 conference championships, wins over Jimbo (FSU), Stoops (Oklahoma), and Petrino (Louisville), and a heisman contender at QB in Greg Ward Jr.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 3:52 pm
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:39 pm to
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Datbayoubengal


I love if when you bring the facts to a discussion
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:47 pm to
There are none. O has bare minimum qualifications to be an HC, but because he's cajun, literally parrots everything the fanbase says (pro style offense, pro style QB, we'll throw more, it's our OL fault and we need better ones, penalties, Bama is cheating, penalties), and can recruit, they've fallen head over hills.

My mind should not be able to register how people can be this damn stupid, but then I remember last year when this same fanbase help give Miles another year to f**k another season up.

Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
2978 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:10 pm to
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One could argue Herman is doing the same thing this year at Houston, and yet the whole fan base is wanting to suck him off. Look I get they're 7-2, but they do have a horrendous loss this year. It's something to be noted.


Sorry, but CEO never schemed an offensive game plan that eviscerated a Saban defense WITH A THIRD-STRING QB.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 4:21 pm
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