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re: Mike Yurcich now available for LSU to consider

Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:35 am to
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And many times has a third option to run it himself. When the QB does keep and run it himself, a simple 5-7 yards per run is plenty for the RPO to be effective and to keep the defense honest. And with the right reads, 5-7 yards per run should be fairly easy for Max.

Thank you, this is essentially what I’ve been trying to say!
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:47 am to
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That’s more of an edge case play, though. Most of these modern option plays are built around a single read to give the QB an easy decision to make quickly. With the RPO it’s a handoff or a pass. With the read option, it’s reading the end to decide whether to hand the ball off or keep it. You don’t see that second read added nearly as often. Many deviations on these plays are because of busts and mistakes.



Yeah that variation isn’t run too often. I’ve seen it mostly with Malzahn
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:58 am to
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Yeah that variation isn’t run too often. I’ve seen it mostly with Malzahn


Right. His whole offense is a bizzare edge case.
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:03 pm to
Seems like someone to consider.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:24 pm to
Yup I was thinking of the read option my bad
Posted by geauxfortwo
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Who would run RPO in our offense? Max is a pretty middling looking athlete for the RPO. He can run it but he won't be great at it. Finley is a giant plodding log out there no way he could run it.


Oh boy
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Who would run RPO in our offense? Max is a pretty middling looking athlete for the RPO. He can run it but he won't be great at it. Finley is a giant plodding log out there no way he could run it.


Holy crap, we have some idiot fans
How do you not know what RPO is if you are a CFB fan

Brennan was 2nd in the sec in rpo% before he got hurt and is not very mobile
TJ’s % of RPO plays was way hire than Burrow’s last year
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4304 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:53 pm to
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Who would run RPO in our offense? Max is a pretty middling looking athlete for the RPO. He can run it but he won't be great at it. Finley is a giant plodding log out there no way he could run it.


Jesus fricken Christ, here we go with people on this board who do not understand the RPO. Smdh
Posted by smoke225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7868 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:55 pm to
They definitely have a bunch of frickin retards on this board! Talk like they know football and are frickin clueless..... shaking head
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88795 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:58 pm to
Somebody is gonna have to have a clinic in here teaching these guys the simple concepts of football. Coming in here a long time ago I thought a lot of posters played some type of football before...boy was I wrong. And honestly you don’t have to play to understand this stuff, it isn’t rocket science. The problem is so many think they’re right and will fight facts with you to the bitter end
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted by smoke225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 1:00 pm to
Bingo!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66677 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 1:39 pm to
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Correct, but the basis of the RPO is to draw the LB up to account for an extra man. If the QB can take off that makes the sell 1000x easier!


No

The basis is making the LB choose between stopping the RB or dropping into Coverage.

This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66453 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 1:46 pm to
The RPO has been around for like a decade now, and somehow, people that watch football every weekend still don't know what it is.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8997 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:14 pm to
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A LOT of people in here get it lumped up with the basic zone Read scheme, it’s crazy


It’s not just rantards. I was listening to Mike Detilliere (sp?) on AFR and he called Jalen Hurts an “RPO quarterback much like Taysom Hill.”

How does a guy that’s entire living is football not know the difference between RPO and read option?
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:17 pm to
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Yurcich is a dang good coach. I wanted him to be the OC at Georgia. Would be an excellent hire.



I agree - but it was hard to evaluate him under Herman as we never really knew how much Titter Tom's thumb was on the offense. Also, Herb Hand sucks as an OL coach (and recruiter) so that complicated matters. We just kinda assumed at one point if it was a good play call, it was Yurcich and if a bad one, Herm.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88795 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:27 pm to
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It’s not just rantards. I was listening to Mike Detilliere (sp?) on AFR and he called Jalen Hurts an “RPO quarterback much like Taysom Hill.”

Well that’s bad because he actually talks to coaches. His boy is Orgeron. Back to the thread topic, I’d be ecstatic if Yurcich is considered and eventually hired.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:28 pm to
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How does a guy that’s entire living is football not know the difference between RPO and read option?

It’s not that we don’t know the difference between an RPO and a read option, Kap @49ers- read option, Foles @Eagles- RPO. Schematically I also understand the difference. What I, and others are saying is this- if the LB has to decide between following the TE or collapsing toward the RB and he does move up to the RB then the QB throws to TE that’s a RPO. That LB had a 50/50 decision to make. However, if through the course of that game the QB has taken off a half dozen times for 5-7 yards each time then LB’s decision % is no longer 50/50 because now he has to account for 2 people running out the backfield bc he got burned before, therefore giving the QB an easier chance of getting the throw to the abandoned TE.
Explain to me what about that doesn’t make sense.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:31 pm to
He averaged about 40 more yards per game this year than Ensminger did with two true freshman QBs playing the majority of the year. Most of our fans couldn't wait to see Ensminger leave and now they're foaming at the mouth over Yurcich.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28653 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:36 pm to
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Explain to me what about that doesn’t make sense.



It’s not that it doesn’t make sense it’s that it has nothing to do with an RPO. It’s just the added stress on a defense that every running quarterback causes on every single drop back.

You can replace RPO in your post with any other play or route tree and everything remains factual.

The RPO was created as a way to stress the defense in the same way as a read option but do it with a non mobile QB.

It’s like saying you can’t run the veer because your line is too small when that’s literally what the offense was designed for.
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