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Let's go over the Harbaugh/Michigan timeline/questions...
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:40 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:40 am
This is what we know:
- 49ers are not in playoff contention after losing to Seahawks yesterday.
- NFL regular season ends on December 28
- Harbaugh has one year remaining on his contract with the 49ers
- Oakland has an opening and several other teams are expected to have head coaching vacancies this offseason
- Harbaugh makes $5 million per year. That is $2 million less than what Jeff Fisher (St. Louis) and Chip Kelly (Philadelphia) make.
- It is thought that Harbaugh and the GM for the 49ers don't get along.
- The 49ers plan to trade Harbaugh to another team, but Harbaugh can veto any trade.
- Oakland is expected to fire its GM.
- Michigan wants to hire a new head coach as soon as possible.
- Michigan also needs to hire a new Athletic Director.
- Recruiting dead period begins today and ends on January 14.
- The average high temperature for December in Ann Arbor, MI is 35 degrees.
- The average high temperature for December in Oakland, CA is 58 degrees.
- Harbaugh married his second wife in 2008 and has three small children, including a baby boy.
- Harbaugh is 50 years old.
- This coming Christmas Day is the 10th anniversary of Saban leaving LSU for the Miami Dolphins
- LSU is scheduled to play Notre Dame in the Music City Bowl on December 30.
Obviously, Michigan is waiting for Harbaugh to make a decision. If Miles or anyone else not coaching an NFL team was the top choice, they would be hired by now.
Harbaugh made comments today that he expects his team to fight hard these last two games, despite being out of playoff contention, because "that is what professionals do." This leads me to believe that Harbaugh will not leave before December 28th.
Questions:
1. Do the 49ers have to wait until the end of the regular season to begin trade negotiations with another team?
2. If Harbaugh quit before either of the 49ers' last two games to take the Michigan job, would he forgo part of his salary?
3. Does Harbaugh aspire to have more control than just being a head coach? eg, GM of an NFL team or AD at a university
4. Would coaching at Michigan afford him significant more time to spend with his wife and children?
It appears that this drags on for at least two more weeks.
- 49ers are not in playoff contention after losing to Seahawks yesterday.
- NFL regular season ends on December 28
- Harbaugh has one year remaining on his contract with the 49ers
- Oakland has an opening and several other teams are expected to have head coaching vacancies this offseason
- Harbaugh makes $5 million per year. That is $2 million less than what Jeff Fisher (St. Louis) and Chip Kelly (Philadelphia) make.
- It is thought that Harbaugh and the GM for the 49ers don't get along.
- The 49ers plan to trade Harbaugh to another team, but Harbaugh can veto any trade.
- Oakland is expected to fire its GM.
- Michigan wants to hire a new head coach as soon as possible.
- Michigan also needs to hire a new Athletic Director.
- Recruiting dead period begins today and ends on January 14.
- The average high temperature for December in Ann Arbor, MI is 35 degrees.
- The average high temperature for December in Oakland, CA is 58 degrees.
- Harbaugh married his second wife in 2008 and has three small children, including a baby boy.
- Harbaugh is 50 years old.
- This coming Christmas Day is the 10th anniversary of Saban leaving LSU for the Miami Dolphins
- LSU is scheduled to play Notre Dame in the Music City Bowl on December 30.
Obviously, Michigan is waiting for Harbaugh to make a decision. If Miles or anyone else not coaching an NFL team was the top choice, they would be hired by now.
Harbaugh made comments today that he expects his team to fight hard these last two games, despite being out of playoff contention, because "that is what professionals do." This leads me to believe that Harbaugh will not leave before December 28th.
Questions:
1. Do the 49ers have to wait until the end of the regular season to begin trade negotiations with another team?
2. If Harbaugh quit before either of the 49ers' last two games to take the Michigan job, would he forgo part of his salary?
3. Does Harbaugh aspire to have more control than just being a head coach? eg, GM of an NFL team or AD at a university
4. Would coaching at Michigan afford him significant more time to spend with his wife and children?
It appears that this drags on for at least two more weeks.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:43 am to Chicken
Two more weeks of speculation season. The Wolverine must have seen it's shadow. 
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:44 am to Chicken
quote:
Harbaugh makes $5 million per year. That is $2 million less than Jeff Fisher and Chip Kelly make
Which is why either Oakland, NYJ, NYG, or the Dolphins will pay him in the 8M/ year range, IMO.
Michigan won't pay him what he is making today, much less increase the ante enough for him to turn away from the NFL.
Miles needs to accept the position today and move on. We need time to get a new HC in before the end of the year.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:44 am to Chicken
What is the story on the Oakland to L.A. situation? Staying in the Bay Area to coach at Oakland doesn't make sense if the team is going to move, anyway.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:44 am to Chicken
quote:
Harbaugh made comments today that he expects his team to fight hard these last two games, despite being out of playoff contention, because "that is what professional do." This leads me to believe that Harbaugh will not leave before December 28th.
It woould be a Petrino move. Nobody wants to be Petrino.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:45 am to Chicken
I would think the 49ers could trade Harbaugh any time they wanted.
He could veto, of course.
He could veto, of course.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:46 am to 4LSU2
quote:
Michigan won't pay him what he is making today, much less increase the ante enough for him to turn away from the NFL.
Wat
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:46 am to 4LSU2
quote:
Michigan won't pay him what he is making today, much less increase the ante enough for him to turn away from the NFL.
quote:
Miles needs to accept the position today and move on.
He would have to be offered it first
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:48 am to 4LSU2
Well the second reply certainly ruined a good thread
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This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:48 am to rocket31
I help where I can. 
eta: See, I already helped you clarify your target.
eta: See, I already helped you clarify your target.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:51 am to Chicken
quote:
1. Do the 49ers have to wait until the end of the regular season to begin trade negotiations with another team?
Harbaugh isn't going to accept a trade. Why would he? The issue is that SF can make this tough on Harbaugh by taking this process slow. That's why Michigan might not be a viable alternative. SF isn't going to want to fire him if they think he'll leave on his own (they don't want to pay him next year's salary). Harbaugh isn't going to leave on his own, if he's going to be fired (he wants next year's salary).
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2. If Harbaugh quit before either of the 49ers' last two games to take the Michigan job, would he forgo part of his salary?
Yes, of course. And, next year's salary. There may even be penalties. Plus, it's not what professionals do. I don't see him doing that. The Michigan window opens and closes right after the regular season ends. I think it would take an agreement between Harbaugh and SF which, given their relationship, is likely harder than it sounds.
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3. Does Harbaugh aspire to have more control than just being a head coach? eg, GM of an NFL team or AD at a university
I doubt that is a sticking point if he's with a quality organization. The days of GM/Coaches are behind us for the most part. If he goes to Oakand, that may be a different story.
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4. Would coaching at Michigan afford him significant more time to spend with his wife and children?
I don't think so. Both jobs are terribly time consuming. If you believe the family angle is important, it probably leads more towards staying in the Bay area.
The biggest factor in Harbaugh to Michigan is Harbaugh's ego. The opportunity to be viewed as a hero could be compelling to him. Other than that, I think he'll find another NFL job...and he'll do it after SF fires him.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:55 am to Chicken
I will add my 2 cents.
Harbaugh is so competitive that he went months without talking to his brother after Super Bowl loss.
His arch rival that began in the college ranks, Pete Carroll, has also won a Super Bowl.
Harbaugh was at the cusp of winning one himself. I just can't see someone with his personality traits allowing anyone to think he would settle for less than what his brother and arch rival accomplished.
Harbaugh is so competitive that he went months without talking to his brother after Super Bowl loss.
His arch rival that began in the college ranks, Pete Carroll, has also won a Super Bowl.
Harbaugh was at the cusp of winning one himself. I just can't see someone with his personality traits allowing anyone to think he would settle for less than what his brother and arch rival accomplished.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:58 am to TreyAnastasio
the team that wants jh, need to go through the Rooney rule. need to interview black coaches.
Raiders will not move to LA this year. the owner said very clear. Miami will not chase JH unless he turns Michigan down.
if you are JH, you do not want to go to Jets. Afc east is owned by patroits. the rebuilding work not easy. in 4 years, you may get fired.
JH is a good coach but may not be a great one. a guy lost superbowl and multiple nfc champ games, may not be a great one. so the jury is still on him. this may be his peak in his career. that is 49er does not want to pay him.
so stay in nfl is nice. but for the next a few years, he may need to changes jobs 3 times before he is done coaching.
saban is smart to know this and he quit nfl and now is the king in college balls.
the money is not an issue in michigan. they will pay him
Raiders will not move to LA this year. the owner said very clear. Miami will not chase JH unless he turns Michigan down.
if you are JH, you do not want to go to Jets. Afc east is owned by patroits. the rebuilding work not easy. in 4 years, you may get fired.
JH is a good coach but may not be a great one. a guy lost superbowl and multiple nfc champ games, may not be a great one. so the jury is still on him. this may be his peak in his career. that is 49er does not want to pay him.
so stay in nfl is nice. but for the next a few years, he may need to changes jobs 3 times before he is done coaching.
saban is smart to know this and he quit nfl and now is the king in college balls.
the money is not an issue in michigan. they will pay him
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:59 am to JohnHager913
they're all gonna interview romeo crennel or terry robiskie for their rooney guys.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:07 pm to moneyg
another question:
What is the deadline for the 49ers to trade Harbaugh?
What is the deadline for the 49ers to trade Harbaugh?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:08 pm to Chicken
quote:
What is the deadline for the 49ers to trade Harbaugh?
He's under contract to them thru next year. There's likely no immediate deadline.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:08 pm to The Egg
jon gruden knows this too. so he is out of coaching.
if i am a black coach, i am not going to interview with raiders, jets because i know the result already. why waste my time?
if i am a black coach, i am not going to interview with raiders, jets because i know the result already. why waste my time?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:09 pm to moneyg
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Harbaugh isn't going to accept a trade. Why would he?
If they tried to trade him his agent would probably be allowed to try to negotiate an extension, raise and more control with the other team. This would increase SF's bargaining power.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:10 pm to JohnHager913
JH will be on top of several NFL teams wishlist,doubt seriously he turns all of them down to go to UM
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:13 pm to Chicken
quote:
another question: What is the deadline for the 49ers to trade Harbaugh?
I don't know that there is a deadline by rule but I would think that any team would want its coaching situation resolved by late January to begin preparing for free agency and the draft.
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