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Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81263 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:40 am to
quote:

slight upgrade from malleveto


i dont like the hire but Jason Mcelwain is a considerable upgrade from Malleveto
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
2971 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:42 am to
The problems in '06-'07 were due to a lack of talent in the secondary, which we "fixed" somewhat by the end of the year in '07. By the UK games and the SEC Title game against you guys we were starting Berry, Rogan (True Freshmen) Willingham (1st Yr JUCO xfer) along with Jonathan Hefney. The Nickleback was Brent Vinson, also a true freshman. I think it was for that reason that we played WAY more zone than we typically do. In '05 we played a ton of man, but in '06 and '07 we played a bunch of Cover 3 and Regular Cover 2.

We played a little more man this season, but not as much as '95-'05. There were also talent issues on the DL in '06 with Justin Harrell being injured for the season, J.T. Mapu returning from his Mormon mission out of shape, and Turk McBride suffering from random injuries throughout the year. For a lot of the season, Walk-on Matt McGlothlin actually started... until DeMonte Bolden and Dan Williams finally came along.

That being said, I don't think they adjusted well early on in '07 as we got embarrassed vs. Cal, UF and Bama. But I did appreciate the way certain guy developed over the course of that season.

quote:

It's not in front of me, so I can't quote it chapter and verse. But you can't just look at the talent - you have to look at what kind of talent was actually on the field. My recollection is that one of the years you cite involved a very low number of returning starters, something like 3 or 4. Perhaps a Vol poster can back me on that. But young talent is just that - young. Just ask Charlie Strong about his 2007 crew at UF.

And I believe some significant injury issues played roles in those numbers as well. I know 1st rounder Justin Harrell only played 3 games the last year he was at TN. The Phil Steele guide, for what that's worth, has a blurb stating that TN had 12 players in walking boots after the 2007 South Carolina game. And if you look at the game-by-game numbers, the TN defensive numbers fall off a cliff after that game.

Again, this is strictly from memory. So any UT posters, or anyone with their 08 Steele guides handy, feel free to call me out. But long/short, there's a lot more that goes into the final defensive rankings than a) who's the DC and b) what talent is listed in the program.

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53779 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I'm not saying this to try and ruffle feathers, but I honestly don't think you guys will get Orgeron. I think it's either Tennessee or New Orleans for old Yaw Yaw.

But I could be wrong. It's been known to happen in the past. What I've been hearing, though, strongly suggests he will be a Vol.


We have been hearing the opposite

Vols not in the picture..his family ain't moving
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:44 am to
quote:

offer is still out for Orgeron, he and his agent are just playing games on the final numbers...still could be possibly playing for a raise with the saints...we shall see, and yes the backup plan if he backs out
Condisering the Saints defense cost them the playoffs this year I cant see how you reward that with a raise.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5038 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Slam dunk imo.


left hand layup in traffic in mine


half court desperation shot...bricks on the backboard, rolls around the rim and plops in the net...to barely beat the team known as malleveto
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36166 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:45 am to
Good move.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10376 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:46 am to
Thanks Belowpar. Great hire for the team.
This post was edited on 12/29/08 at 10:47 am
Posted by ermis33
Monroe
Member since Aug 2004
90 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:47 am to
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5038 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:47 am to
quote:

i dont like the hire but Jason Mcelwain is a considerable upgrade from Malleveto


you are correct, i am half kidding.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:47 am to
here is thier recruiting rankings since 02

02 2

03 18

04 11

05 4

06 23 (with 22 signies)

07 3

08 not even ranked

compare that with:

04 2

05 22

06 7

07 4

08 11

i would say we have cosdiderably more talent. Especially since alot of their 22 ranked full of three stars is actually starting (they had 22 schollys given that year). We have recruited top ten talent every year. Maybe i am just trying to make myself feel better. Many of the players that have played with him that are now in the nfl say he is the best coach they have ever been with. I remember a link that drexyl had the was quit impresive.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131492 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:48 am to
Is Les Miles still the head coach?

If so, Alleva has not addressed the problem.

Posted by nino2469
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2004
5526 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Condisering the Saints defense cost them the playoffs this year I cant see how you reward that with a raise


Coach O was not the problem, safeties were the biggest problem on defense. Ellis developed very well as a rookie and you have to give Coach O credit for that.
Posted by jampat
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2007
11079 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Is Les Miles still the head coach?

If so, Alleva has not addressed the problem.


Wow
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5038 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:49 am to
quote:

s Les Miles still the head coach?

If so, Alleva has not addressed the problem.



Are you still posting? If so, chicken has not addressed the problem.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Is Les Miles still the head coach?

If so, Alleva has not addressed the problem.


GTFO of here, seriously. You and your 50k posts.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81263 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:50 am to
quote:

i would say we have cosdiderably more talent.


would you say those rankings are considerably higher on average than Chavis' defensive unit rankings during that time period?
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:50 am to
quote:

CountryVolFan
do you think he is a good coach??? Or should i say, are you glad he is gone
Posted by lsufan3
Orlando
Member since Nov 2005
301 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:50 am to
BP!!!!!!!

Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44585 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:50 am to
quote:


i dont like the hire but Jason Mcelwain is a considerable upgrade from Malleveto


Posted by Hideo Nomo
Put up both hands, drop one thumb
Member since Apr 2008
7457 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:50 am to
The Chief is here.
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