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Houston Coaching Options - Blind Resumes

Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:09 pm
Coach A:
.625 winning percentage as HC
Offensive minded
well thought of recruiter, but no ties to texas

Coach B:
.420 winning percentage as HC, but higher as of late
defensive minded
well thought of recruiter with deeper ties to texas

Who would you hire and why?

Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50665 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:10 pm to
Tricky tricky
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:15 pm to
A gives them a chance to keep with what has worked for them with three of their past four coaches.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:23 pm to
Winning percentage doesn't matter since I don't know how long or what school they are coaching at. I mean winning percentages at Alabama and vandy are apples to oranges as far as judging success of a coach.


That said I think it's important for a school like Houston to have a coach with ties to high schools in the state. Their bread and butter will always come from under the radar kids who other schools pass on. Havin good relationships to area schools could benefit in finding those kids.

So I guess coach B
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Winning percentage doesn't matter since I don't know how long or what school they are coaching at


What if they were at comparable schools for 3+ years each? Does that change your decision, or are ties to Texas that important?
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:38 pm to
just to answer your question then I'd go with the higher win percentage.

But it's not that easy.
If you are trying to find who would be best for that school "Houston" specifically
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:39 pm to
Herman wasn't someone who had spent large amounts of time in Texas before his Houston job

Actually I was wrong. He coached all over Texas before Houston
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by adambomb
Member since Dec 2014
1462 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:43 pm to
I feel like B is Bradley Dale Peveto
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

If you are trying to find who would be best for that school "Houston" specifically



Not specifically, but that's the best job currently open (better than Baylor for right now, IMO, b/c of the Baylor issues).

You could replace "Houston" with any school you wanted and replace "ties to Texas" with ties to whatever state the school you selected is located in.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

I feel like B is Bradley Dale Peveto


Nope.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:58 pm to
What I mean is look at what has worked for Houston Before. Briles was a high school coach with very close ties to Texas. Sumlin was coordinator at Oklahoma and part of the stoops mike leach tree. Levine I don't know much about but he was not as successful. Herman was a successful offensive coordinator at osu and had close ties to Texas.

So going by that I would find a coordinator from a big time program who would have ties to Texas.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5727 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:59 pm to
Is B Charlie Strong?
Posted by BoulderTiger
Boulder County: Lafayette, Colorado
Member since Nov 2006
805 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:02 pm to
Have to adjust that winning percentage by Strength of Schedule, for losses, point differential and probably a few other things, if the guy who has the .420% winning % has an SOS 2X the other guy, the story looks completely different. Recruiting is so key to succeeding, it all starts there. If the University is willing to show some patience, take the guy with the better average and he should be smart enough to surround himself with a bunch of local coordinators, associate coaches, etc to help make those relationships. This person would have to be a great recruiter.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20740 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:32 pm to
B is Coach O
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:44 pm to
A Is Kiffin
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

B is Coach O



Yes. And A is another coach who would have crawled across broken glass for the LSU job.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4450 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:56 pm to
a= Dana Holgorsen
b= O
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

a= Dana Holgorsen
b= O


Nope.

A = Kiffin (another poster nailed it)
B = Coach O

Replace Houston with LSU and replace "texas ties" with "louisiana ties". Kiffin would have begged for the LSU job, which, I assume, O did too.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Kiffin


= POS. Do not want. Even as OC. O and Kiffin together would be even worse. Trouble waiting to happen and not the good kind.
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