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Herman Will Flop Regardless Where He Lands

Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:26 pm
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:26 pm
I just don't think he lives up to expectations. I just see shades of Rich Rod in 07 and 08.

Surefire hire. Can't miss young offensive genius. Give him the keys to the Porsche. Watch him run it into a tree.

I don't know. It's just a feeling. It seems like every time there is a can't miss, young coach, he chokes. He doesn't measure up or the pressure gets to him.

Time will tell.

These guys never seem to pan out.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 5:51 pm
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:36 pm to
K
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19305 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:37 pm to
Whether he comes to LSU or goes to UT, his background is a bit different in that he came from being the OC at a Power Five program, Ohio St. and was highly successful there. RR's background was nothing like that beyond running a high powered offense against not stellar defenses. Note he bombed at a big boy school, Mich.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10405 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:39 pm to
Urban Meyer is a great example of a young up and comer.
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1912 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22001 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:41 pm to
OC at Clemson before taking over at West Virginia.

I think his resume was pretty damn good. At the time, and I don't know how many remember this, but he was THE GUY everyone wanted him.

There are several other examples of hot young coaches shitting the bed. More than there are of the young guns being up to the task.

Just playing the odds here.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:46 pm to
It's fair given the data, but this guy just seems different. He has been successful everywhere he has gone and seems to have recruiting chops. The greatest coach of all time respected him enough to get his input on what he did that was effective against his defensive scheme. He has had tremendous success as a HC, albeit a small sample size. People don't harp on this enough, but being a member of mensa tells me this guy isn't some fluke... he is probably just that gifted.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:48 pm to
See Gus Malzahn too...

OC on National Championship team, conference champion in one year as HC, started hot at AU (National Championship game appearance)...

As of two weeks ago his seat was el fuego hot...
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:09 pm
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:57 pm to
I agree. We better be careful and not get caught up because someone else says he is a hot pick. As I said before, easy for new coaches to get caught up in what they think they should be doing.

Easy to get flooded with sanctions. I don't want to rush this hire because other jobs are opening.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34114 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:03 pm to
In HOU for the night, was listening to a local sports show with some guy named Pete from SI...the crux of this, the firing of Miles has set off a panic among legacy programs already contemplating making a change...Strong, Malzahn, and the USC guy are now dead men walking...Oregon possibly...Jimbo will leave FSU only for LSU, if they ask he'll walk. Herman's dream job is UT, but UT are afraid LSU will throw the bank at Herman, and the SEC intrigues him...next to Herman, PJ Fleck is the hottest coaching commodity in College football...Petrino with the PJ money isnt leaving UL...Auburn is a dumpster fire and according to the SI guy Briles will be pursuing the job....this is all from SI, some guy named Pete
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22001 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:06 pm to
Pete Thamel?

LINK
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:08 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34114 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Pete Thamel?



that's him
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13499 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:13 pm to
He's my number 3.
Jimbo #1 almost a sure thing, very little down side.
Patrino #2 also almost a sure thing, higher buy out, small down side.

Both of these are mature and would stay around 10-15 years if successful.

Herman high potential for good or bad. If very good, will NFL call in 5 years? #3
Posted by Bayoutigre
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Member since Feb 2007
5626 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Herman Will Flop Regardless Where He Lands
gold
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:06 pm to
I think you say TH is a flop so that he would be available at Bama once Saban retires. Too late, man.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22001 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:11 pm to
Yup. Tough to pull a coach from UT.

So, you guys want Charlie Strong, right?
Posted by LSUlax17
Member since Jun 2014
745 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

the firing of Miles has set off a panic among legacy programs already contemplating making a change.


So what you're saying is...

They Scared?
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 7:39 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66650 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:39 pm to
Ever heard of a guy called Urban meyers?
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4342 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

It's just a feeling



well, that settles it.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:18 pm to
you gave one example. lame.

and I tend to agree that he is NO can't miss coach. one gig and he's killed it by beating two top teams; and the rest of his opponents pretty blah.

I would be leery of hiring him.
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