Does LSU "deserve" a great, top-tier coach?

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I don't have problems, but I can't sell out to full blown love for they guy until he brings back and SEC championship. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have one since we had a "favorable"(relative to our even years) schedule and the most talented team in the country.

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I agree with the sentiment, and your intent: The SEC championship should be the primary, first-and-foremost goal (we can't directly control all of the factors in the BCS, but we can beat teams in our division, get in the SEC-CG and win it without help from others). However, what if the guy wins 10 or 11 games, but can't pull out a victory in Atlanta, let's say not only this year, and not over the next two or three years as well. Do you let a guy go who's 55-11? Or 65-14? Really?

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However, what if the guy wins 10 or 11 games, but can't pull out a victory in Atlanta, let's say not only this year, and not over the next two or three years as well. Do you let a guy go who's 55-11? Or 65-14? Really?

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I honestly don't know, it owuld be a shitty, shitty position to be in. I mean if we lose it this wear its going to be a pain actually winning one with Tim Tebow being Junior(and probably Senior) over the next two years, while we try to continue recruiting at the level we are.

Lets hope Les wins the next two games and we don't have to worry about that question

I have a problem with the word "deserve". It rarely applies to anything, and certainly not LSU in this instance. LSU doesn't deserve anything just because it's LSU. Do I think this is one of the top 2 or 3 jobs in the country? Yep. Do I think a coach is insane to not want to come here and stay? Yep. Do we "deserve" any one of them? Nope.

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When a guy gets run off at 57 because he was "too old", and "couldn't beat the Bear" and nonsense like that... flash forward to 2007...

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Did you forget about the losses to Tulane?

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why the frick wouldn't we deserve a great top tier coach?

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Because a lot of our fans are assholes and don't even appreciate the one we have now.

I definitely without a doubt don't see how we couldn't have a top tier coach. I have traveled all over the sec, been everywhere except FLA and TENN and we have far superior facilities than everyone else. I have heard and read articles that out program and facilities are on par with NFL level facilities. We have tons of talent and should and are every year top 3 in recruiting, we are the only large school in our area. We have no choice, with the renovations to the stadium. I went to lsu from 1993 to 1997, graduated and moved back to shreveport. When i was there football was horrible. We started every year 0-1 to Texas A&M. Remember it was a little les than 10 years ago, 50 to 60K in tiger stadium was considered good. We can afford that anymore, we can't afford to let the program slip, and thats what would happen without a top tier or big name coach.

Here is where i will get pounded. If we can keep Les, we need to do everything we can to do so. If not, we HAVE to try to get Saban back. Bama and their facilities and recruiting against auburn, ole miss, miss state. LSU is a far superior job, plus at LSU everything that was built to make up so far superior was built by nick, just like he wants it. I have heard he hates it in Alabama and they gotta be questioning his salary. I think getting Saban back can be done. He would stay forever, this time. I don't have a problem when someone wants to take the next step or challenge themselves further. And when you get offered total control of the Miami Dolphins, nobody can turn that down. Now he has seen that the NFL is different, and want to be back with kids and all the great feelings that come with seeing kids become men and bond as a team and achieve greatness. I guess i have to admit, I am a Saban lover.

He built LSU football, won the national championship, and if les leaves, we have to get him back. Pay or do whatever it takes, Nick Saban would be a Bear or Bowden stable at LSU and win Championships on a regular basis. Keep what we got if we can, although les is gone. I don't blame him for wanting to go home, that is the job he has always wanted. And I think LSU is the job that saban wants back and would take back. Help saban pay his way out of bama. Buy his house back for him, and pay him 1 million more that any coach in college football that changes every 5 years.

With that said, I don't know any other options, Spurier, once he lost Bob Stoups and his great coordinators he didn't do anything at florida his last few years. Do you want the ole ball coach, throwing visors, clipboards and headphones, or do you want little hitler, prowling the sideline ripping arse on the refs making proper changes at halftime. Solidifying our defensive backfield, and could bring in almost any coordinators he wanted.

If we lose Les, Saban back home is the only option that will prevent a terrible drop off if Tiger football, that could put us back in Curly days. I have been there during that time, and I promise you, we don't want to go back to that. We must, no if ands or buts about it bring Saban home, if and probably when Les goes to the big house.

If not, i pray to God for LSU and their football program, but at least i will be able to upgrade my tix. I can get some chair-backs in the bowl to go with my stadium club tix. That will be the only benefit of losing les and not getting saban.

With 2 NC's in 4 years and an infinite pipeline of high school talent, LSU will always have access to elite coaching.

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here are significant portions of our fanbase that TODAY have problems with a coach that has gone 32-5 over his entire career at LSU.

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much of our fanbase have an inferiority complex and want/need a big name that they believe others are jealous of. Their problem with Miles is he isn't revered as a top national coach...has little to do with wins and losses.

Yeah I yelled Help Mac Pack. Who knew anything then. I thonk some more $$$ may keep Les. How about Schiano?