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Can't help but root for O, but my head says no.

Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:11 am
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:11 am
I love the idea of O. I love that LSU would have a coach who looks, acts and talks like Louisiana. I love the thought of O eating etouffee with a recruit and his family in a town that the rest of the world doesn't know how to pronounce. There's something comforting and exciting about O. He's the Cajun next door.

But my head tells me that you don't make big decisions based on sentimentality or emotion. You make big decisions based on facts. You make big decisions based on results. You make big decisions based on track records.

My heart says yes, but my head says no, and I don't trust my heart.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9365 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:19 am to
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talks like Louisiana

I've lived in Louisiana all my life and never met anyone who sounds like that. So I'm not sure that represents the entire state.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38770 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:51 am to
TL:DR my body is ready for Coach O
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22165 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:03 pm to
You heart is smarter than your brain..
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23060 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:33 pm to
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But my head tells me that you don't make big decisions based on sentimentality or emotion. You make big decisions based on facts. You make big decisions based on results. You make big decisions based on track records.
you could still do this....if you're basing your decision (which really isn't your decision anyway) on facts, results and track records you could see how the rest of the season plays out THEN see if you think O is the man for the job. It's just one game and it was Mizzou but that was a record setting beat down his first time out the gate. We've played bad SEC teams before but never dominated to that extent.

What would have been said if instead of O/Ensminger it was Tom Herman (his name be praised) on the sideline this past Saturday night? We'd be high fiving each other and saying how right we were to hire such a football genius.

Make the decision with your head. If O wins and looks like he can run the program (so far so good) then i have no problem handing it over to him. If not then we will have plenty of great choices.

No one wants this job more than O. That extra want can make a big difference.
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:55 pm to
Then you haven't lived in the right part of Louisiana. I've met literally hundreds of people who sound exactly like Coach O.
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:10 pm to
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if you're basing your decision (which really isn't your decision anyway)


No shite. You know what I mean. If it were up to me.

Look, basing this decision off of this season is not a true reflection of the job. This season began with a different coach who had been building this team for 12 seasons. O comes in and settles things down and moves forward, and so far so good. But an interim job tells us nothing about maintaining a winning environment through an offseason, keeping a winning culture alive for multiple seasons and keeping the program on an upward trajectory. The only facts we know about O tell us that he hasn't done that well.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23060 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:46 pm to
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Look, basing this decision off of this season is not a true reflection of the job
Disagree. This is exactly a reflection of the job because it is in fact the job. if this were one game you'd have a point - hiring hal hunter because he beat arkansas would be ridiculous. 8 games is the lion's share of the season against our toughest opponents. I can't think of a better way to judge a coaching candidate than to promote him on short notice and have him coach against the meat of the schedule. At the end of the season you will know more about Coach O than Tom Herman with regards to their ability to lead the Tigers - only question will be if you like what you see or not.

Writing him off now is short sighted just like wanting to hire him because he beat Mizzou is short sighted.
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The only facts we know about O tell us that he hasn't done that well.
More facts are coming that will either support that conclusion or call it into question - why not wait until you have all of the information before you make up your mind?
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:28 pm to
Because you don't have all the information. You know that O can succeed as an interim coach. You have no clue if he can succeed from year to year. You know that Herman can. You know that Jimbo can. All you know about O is that he can take what even a blind person can see is a contender and motivate them to contend. You have no evidence that he can sustain it, and that's the only evidence that counts. Larry Coker inherited a contender, but he couldn't sustain it.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:43 pm to
If he wins 9 games, I think you'd have to stick with him. Whatever he did, LSU played way differently. If he can motivate, I say keep him.
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