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re: Bucs fire Lovie Smith
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:33 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:33 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Saints fans that want him as a DC...
Bucs fans that want Koetter as a HC...
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:05 pm to hendersonshands
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Just saw it scroll. That's retarded.
FIFY.
Dumb move by a dumb organization. As a Raider fan, prior to this year, I would have KILLED for the organization to get a coach of Lovie Smith's caliber in Oakland.
The Bucs have made a lot of dumb decisions since they fired Jon Gruden. He was, admittedly, over-hyped, but it's been a myriad of bad calls since then.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:08 pm to doghouse_4x4
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He had a massively run oriented offense at Jacksonville with David Garrard
That he turned into a top 10 offense.
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and a veteran Matt Ryan in Atlanta.
Another top 10 offense, and Ryan was there for what 3, maybe 4 years before he arrived.
Ryan was still young when Dirk showed up.
Now, he's turned the Bucs into a top 10 offense. This was the best offense in the team's history.
The team needs continuity on offense more than anything. That's why this move makes sense.
Koetter is more valuable to the franchise than Lovie. It's pretty simple, and people who can't recognize this are simply ill-informed.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:08 pm to craigbiggio
I'm not married to the idea of Koetter getting the job. I just didn't like Lovie all that much and don't mind that he got fired.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:11 pm to RuLSU
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Dumb move by a dumb organization. As a Raider fan, prior to this year, I would have KILLED for the organization to get a coach of Lovie Smith's caliber in Oakland.
Another post blasting the move, that is completely void of logic.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:14 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Another post blasting the move, that is completely void of logic.
It's funny seeing the praise for Lovie
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:16 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
Are we crazy for thinking the Bucs' roster is way too talented to win at the clip that they were with Lovie?
Dude has a .506 career winning percentage. He has had more seasons below .500 than above. He won 3 playoff games in 11 seasons. He is 8-24 with the Bucs.
I don't understand the shock here.
Dude has a .506 career winning percentage. He has had more seasons below .500 than above. He won 3 playoff games in 11 seasons. He is 8-24 with the Bucs.
I don't understand the shock here.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
I think its crazy to make the move for Koetter. I don't think he's so valuable you shite your pants at the notion of him leaving.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:31 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Koetter is more valuable to the franchise than Lovie. It's pretty simple, and people who can't recognize this are simply ill-informed.
Or think Koetter is mediocre and know a lot more about him than what he did with the Bucs....
But hey yeah, you are probably right, we are all just ignorant.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
I don't feel like the Bucs have that good of a roster, and I think under normal circumstances, he keeps his job.
Koetter just means more to the franchise. People here don't recognize it, because they aren't as familiar with the organization.
These are great points.
Koetter just means more to the franchise. People here don't recognize it, because they aren't as familiar with the organization.
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Dude has a .506 career winning percentage. He has had more seasons below .500 than above. He won 3 playoff games in 11 seasons. He is 8-24 with the Bucs.
I don't understand the shock here.
These are great points.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:39 pm to BilJ
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I think its crazy to make the move for Koetter. I don't think he's so valuable you shite your pants at the notion of him leaving.
Keeping the coach in charge of the 9th ranked offense over the coach in charge of the 30th ranked defense=\= shitting your pants
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:42 pm to jlnoles79
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It's funny seeing the praise for Lovie
I'm not going to pretend that I'm up-to-date on all things Bucs football.
Lovie Smith was consistently successful in Chicago. I think, given another year with a 2nd year Winston, he would have succeeded in Tampa.
You can't argue the last 3 hires in Tampa have been duds. I'm a Rutgers fan, so I wasn't surprised by Schiano being awful.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:44 pm to doghouse_4x4
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Or think Koetter is mediocre and know a lot more about him than what he did with the Bucs....
You mean producing two other top 10 offenses?
Of course, those offenses mean little compared to the job he did in year one with Jameis, two rookie olineman and an injury riddled receiving corps.
So, go ahead and throw out his past, and let's just focus on 2015.
What did Lovie do to prove that he is as valuable to this team than keeping Jameis and Koetter together?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:46 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
What did he do? He made the SB with Rex...only a decade ago!
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:46 pm to RuLSU
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Lovie Smith was consistently successful in Chicago. I think, given another year with a 2nd year Winston, he would have succeeded in Tampa.
Jameis' success is much more dependent upon keeping Koetter than Smith.
And Jameis is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
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What did he do? He made the SB with Rex...only a decade ago!
It is pretty silly.
Folks are acting like they just let go of Bill Walsh
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:01 pm to RuLSU
quote:He was exact opposite of that.
Lovie Smith was consistently successful in Chicago
Playoffs: missed, made, made, missed, missed, missed, made, missed, missed.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:41 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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So, go ahead and throw out his past, and let's just focus on 2015.
No, let's not. That's what you are doing and specifically what is wrong. Knowing "the Bucs" is completely irrelevant. Nobody is saying that Lovie Smith is the answer to anything, they are saying Koetter isn't that valuable, which he isn't.
If you want to bring up a top ten offense, you also have to point out he had the last, as in Dead fricking Last, offense in 2011. He averaged 15th to 16th with the Jags. Definition of mediocre.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:47 pm to doghouse_4x4
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No, let's not.
Okay
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That's what you are doing and specifically what is wrong.
I wasn't doing that at all. I did it once to prove a point.
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Knowing "the Bucs" is completely irrelevant.
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Nobody is saying that Lovie Smith is the answer to anything,
Bull fricking shite.
The vast majority here bashed the Lovie firing, without having a clue as to the motivation.
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If you want to bring up a top ten offense, you also have to point out he had the last, as in Dead fricking Last, offense in 2011. He averaged 15th to 16th with the Jags. Definition of mediocre.
Valid points
But again...... Please explain to me what makes Lovie Smith more valuable than Dirk Koetter, given the current state of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
How about not dodging the question this time.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:27 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
I haven't dodged anything. I'm saying both are expendable. Koetter is mediocre and no answer
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