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A Question for Herman Fans
Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:09 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:09 am
Honest question - what do you see in Herman that makes you feel he wont fade like previous "it" hires like Rich Rod and Malzahn? I get he runs an explosive offense but so did those two before defenses (and lack of QB for system) caught up with them.
Not flaming but I'm genuinely curious as to what traits he may possess that the other two didn't that would allow for sustained success.
Not flaming but I'm genuinely curious as to what traits he may possess that the other two didn't that would allow for sustained success.
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:21 am to Royal Tiger Fan
His teams just want to run through a brick wall for him
They play so hard. On offense and defense.
He's extremely intelligent (Mensa member)
The moment I knew he would be a great coach, though, is when he prepared a 3rd String quarterback in Cardale Jones to take down Saban/Kirby Smart's Defense..
I was sold
They play so hard. On offense and defense.
He's extremely intelligent (Mensa member)
The moment I knew he would be a great coach, though, is when he prepared a 3rd String quarterback in Cardale Jones to take down Saban/Kirby Smart's Defense..
I was sold
Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:24 am to Royal Tiger Fan
Things i Like about Tom Herman.
1. He runs a system that has been shown to work in the SEC (Florida and to some extent MSU) and at Ohio State against good teams
2. He turned Houston into a Juggernaut essentially instantly. They went 8-5, 8-5 and 507 the three years before he got there.
3. He cares about defense. Which is huge for an offensive minded coach.
1. He runs a system that has been shown to work in the SEC (Florida and to some extent MSU) and at Ohio State against good teams
2. He turned Houston into a Juggernaut essentially instantly. They went 8-5, 8-5 and 507 the three years before he got there.
3. He cares about defense. Which is huge for an offensive minded coach.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:26 am to SammyTiger
quote:
He cares about defense
Who doesnt??
Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:33 am to dbuchanon
Art Briles
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:03 am to dbuchanon
quote:
Who doesnt??
Mike Leach
Petrino didn't seem to at Arkansas
Dana Holgreb
Cliff Kingsbury
Rich Rod
I am sure they care but they don't invest their athletes in it.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:10 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Mike Leach Petrino didn't seem to at Arkansas Dana Holgreb Cliff Kingsbury Rich Rod
What athletes do they have on defense? Looks to me these are coaches whos teams are hardly if ever in the top 30 in recruit rankings.
You can create advantages on offense, dbl teams,misdirection ect. Gotta have talent to play defense, I dont care how good you coach em up. 3 star players cant cover 5's.
Look at the Saints, one of the worst defenses in the league. D Allen didnt forget how to coach defense, we just dont have the players who can cover the opposition.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:19 am to Royal Tiger Fan
quote:
Honest question - what do you see in Herman that makes you feel he wont fade like previous "it" hires like Rich Rod and Malzahn?
Saban didn't bring in those two to pay them for their knowledge on how to better his defense because they were eaten up by them. He brought in Herman to make those changes to his defense.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 3:20 am to SammyTiger
Hmm I hadn't thought of the defense angle. That's a good point.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 4:00 am to Royal Tiger Fan
He got Ed Oliver to commit to UH over us.......
Posted on 9/28/16 at 5:29 am to Royal Tiger Fan
Houston currently has a top 5 defense...He's pretty well balanced which isn't a surprise since he's from the Urban Meyer coaching family.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 5:36 am to Harv1790
Thanks ...I also read he favors the 3-4
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:46 am to Royal Tiger Fan
Him players play very hard for him and no matter who his QB is, he produces.
Ohio state did not have the 3 best QB's in the country on one team, he just made them look like the best.
Ohio state did not have the 3 best QB's in the country on one team, he just made them look like the best.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:56 am to Jack Daniel
I like and want Herman, but I find it funny that some people were bashing the idea of Dan Mullen, when his resume and Herman's are basically mirror images.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:03 am to Royal Tiger Fan
quote:
Not flaming but I'm genuinely curious as to what traits he may possess that the other two didn't that would allow for sustained success.
Everything non football related. His intelligence, leadership, organizational skills set him apart from any other recent flavor of the month. There are lots of links, stories, and videos about what he's doing over there off the field.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:06 am to higgins
When has Mullen beat Florida st. and Oklahoma?
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:16 am to higgins
quote:
I like and want Herman, but I find it funny that some people were bashing the idea of Dan Mullen, when his resume and Herman's are basically mirror images.
I agree with you 100%. D.M. was 'Herman' right before he was hired by Miss St....the hot-topic OC working for Meyer. Since then he has been in the SEC W competing (home/away, recruiting, etc.) and doing abv avg given his program is #2 in the state next to OM; and his facilities, staff, program history, etc...are avg at best. Guy is only 44, and I think would be a very good hire for LSU. *With that said I'm all about pursuing Herman and Jimbo, but Mullen should be near the top of the list. I would take Mullen over Briles, Fedora, and most of the other names I have heard...
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:19 am to dbuchanon
quote:
Gotta have talent to play defense, I dont care how good you coach em up. 3 star players cant cover 5's.
Wisconsin
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:19 am to HC87
quote:
I would take Mullen over Briles, Fedora, and most of the other names I have heard...
as would I. exactly my point. if we have to "drop down" to the next tier, mullen, imo, is more proven than many of the other names thrown in the hat.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:20 am to higgins
Tom Herman's win percent as a HC .944
Dan Mullen's win percent as a HC .606
How are those the same?
Dan Mullen's win percent as a HC .606
How are those the same?
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