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Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:20 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
i knew it! they run everything! I wish I had that kind of drive.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:21 pm to cnydreamer
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As I stated, Richard and Susan Lipsey are best friends with Skip Bertman
That's a fact; ever since 1986 have been very close. Richard and Susan have sat with Sandy at all of the baseball games, and generally travelled with Sandy, and or Skip and Sandy on road trips. Some people do not like Richard, because of his personality; other's who get to know him, find him to be a good person. At this point, he has "done his tour of duty", particularly with Skip giving up the reigns. He will not play a major part with whichever individual is, if indeed Miles leaves, in picking a successor. Input yes, political fight, no!
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:25 pm to specs1
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None of those people matter.
Board of Supervisors and Lombardi will make the decision.
Big money contributors matter my friend.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:26 pm to pjtiger
Why do friends of Bertman matter...because they are rich?
I have friends that are rich, and I can tell you that they want Saban always have wanted Saban...and have been very very worried about Saban at Bama and what he will do to LSU (west)...
we need to understand that Saban is as good as there is...and he is a recruiting machine. with leadership skills, and Football knowledge second to none per Jimbo Fisher...
Get him back if you can...who is better and more available..
Nick is still in his prime! SS pass his prime..
we need a coach for 10 year run!
I have friends that are rich, and I can tell you that they want Saban always have wanted Saban...and have been very very worried about Saban at Bama and what he will do to LSU (west)...
we need to understand that Saban is as good as there is...and he is a recruiting machine. with leadership skills, and Football knowledge second to none per Jimbo Fisher...
Get him back if you can...who is better and more available..
Nick is still in his prime! SS pass his prime..
we need a coach for 10 year run!
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:30 pm to ApexTiger
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Why do friends of Bertman matter...because they are rich?
No dumb arse, because Richard was the President of both the LSU Foundation and TAF. He is extremely respected in the business community, and obviously has been both a major academic and athletic contribuotr to LSU. He and Susan just happen to be close personal friends of Skip's and Sandy's. Richard's input was there long before Skip became AD.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:35 pm to cnydreamer
That's a load of Bull$hit! I know the family, and they ain't the problem.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:35 pm to Roovelroe
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What do you think would happen in bammaland if he left?
Mushroom cloud!! That is the only comparison I can think of that would come close to describing what we would be like if he went back to LSU. The rational part of my mind would understand it and I probably wouldn't have any hard feelings longterm, but the BAMA fan part of me would be devastated. I am just being honest.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:40 pm to pjtiger
I think most people, (myself included) are trying to look around at this whole coaching carousel thing with a little common sense. I personally feel Saban going back to LSU would be a murder/suicide for all involved.
1. After spending only one year at Alabama, Saban, who is already public enemy #1 with the press, would be absolutely scalded. Worse than imaginable. His reputation would suffer so grievously, that I don't think he could ever recover. That includes with recruits.
2. Alabama would garner a lot of heat from the media who would mostly want to pile on for the sake of piling on. They would have to go back into coach search mode, and implosion would occur.
3. LSU would get a media dress down that would make anything that was ever said about Alabama seem like a consolation card. Hypocrites, liars, fickle, etc...,etc...
I have read all the theories so far, and besides the emotional stuff above, here are some logical thoughts.
Everyone has called Nick a whore and a money grubber, yet they believe he would leave Alabama for less money? Guaranteed money at that?
A 10 million dollar buyout? What possible benefit would Saban find with a buyout? That's is completely contrary to the great contract he is currently in. 32 million guaranteed beats 10 if you're fired. He has to pay 10 if he leaves, but he has to pay Bama nothing. The logic on trading deals there is completely backwards.
The whole concept of Saban back to LSU doesn't work for so many reasons. Not to mention the number of LSU fans that would never forgive him regardless.
I think it is safe to say that the Saban/LSU ship has sailed for the present. Now three or four more years down the line, and it might be plausible, but it would be horrible for both programs and Saban right now if it happened.
1. After spending only one year at Alabama, Saban, who is already public enemy #1 with the press, would be absolutely scalded. Worse than imaginable. His reputation would suffer so grievously, that I don't think he could ever recover. That includes with recruits.
2. Alabama would garner a lot of heat from the media who would mostly want to pile on for the sake of piling on. They would have to go back into coach search mode, and implosion would occur.
3. LSU would get a media dress down that would make anything that was ever said about Alabama seem like a consolation card. Hypocrites, liars, fickle, etc...,etc...
I have read all the theories so far, and besides the emotional stuff above, here are some logical thoughts.
Everyone has called Nick a whore and a money grubber, yet they believe he would leave Alabama for less money? Guaranteed money at that?
A 10 million dollar buyout? What possible benefit would Saban find with a buyout? That's is completely contrary to the great contract he is currently in. 32 million guaranteed beats 10 if you're fired. He has to pay 10 if he leaves, but he has to pay Bama nothing. The logic on trading deals there is completely backwards.
The whole concept of Saban back to LSU doesn't work for so many reasons. Not to mention the number of LSU fans that would never forgive him regardless.
I think it is safe to say that the Saban/LSU ship has sailed for the present. Now three or four more years down the line, and it might be plausible, but it would be horrible for both programs and Saban right now if it happened.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:44 pm to Bamapossum
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Everyone has called Nick a whore and a money grubber, yet they believe he would leave Alabama for less money? Guaranteed money at that?
A 10 million dollar buyout? What possible benefit would Saban find with a buyout? That's is completely contrary to the great contract he is currently in. 32 million guaranteed beats 10 if you're fired. He has to pay 10 if he leaves, but he has to pay Bama nothing. The logic on trading deals there is completely backwards.
See, that's the evil genius in the deal. If he comes back for less money with a worse deal, it can only be because he's following his heart. And what American wouldn't understand that?
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:47 pm to Colonel Hapablap
Riiiigggggghhhhhhhtt.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:50 pm to Bamapossum
Just remember where you heard Richard Lipsey's name first!
Good night all!
Good night all!
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:56 pm to Bamapossum
This is about money, not heart. If LSU wants him back they will have to pony up and he will dictate the terms of the contract. LSU in no way will call the shots if he returns. Y'all know that. As fans it is hard for us to understand that these guys would only have loyalty to their school. We don;t understand how they can not love LSU or BAMA as much as we do, but in reality they don't unless you are lucky enough to have a coach that also played for you. Coach Bryant for example played at Alabama and when the Dolphins tried to hire him, which they did just about every other year, he told them no. That is loyalty.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 10:10 pm to Bamapossum
I don't have the same opinion of the media. If Saban were to return to BR,you are correct, he would be scalded by the media for some time. Tr That happened at Bama when he quit the Dolphins. However, after he had some success early in the season the talk shows were again praising him. When next season starts and he wins four or five games the same people giving him hell for returning will be like lap dogs. When Saban came to BR many of the talking heads were doubting that a "Yankee" could recruit and be successful in Baton Rouge. Within a year these guys had switched their stance and started praising him again.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 10:14 pm to specs1
I just think it would be hilarious to watch the 'Bama meltdown as they see their savior use them as a stepping stone to get back to LSU.
It would ALMOST be worth the hassle of having him back in Baton Rouge!
It would ALMOST be worth the hassle of having him back in Baton Rouge!
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