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Would You Hire a Program Changing Coach From a Bottom Tier School

Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:23 am
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:23 am
Darrell Hazzell at Kent State
Gary Anderson at Utah State,
Willie Taggert at Western Kentucky

There are probably a couple other coaches I left off that could be added that have turned around bad programs. What are yall's thoughts on hiring coaches from small schools with a losing tradition and limited resources who are able to reestablish the program? Seems like they are used to doing more with less and could benefit from having the unlimited resources of schools like Auburn and Tennessee
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 11:42 am
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:35 am to
Still not a slam dunk. Look at Turner Gill.

But yes, it is not a bad approach. Brian Kelly, Urban Meyer, Art Briles come to mind.

And I think Anderson is a hell of a coach and would succeed anywhere. Great defensive guy.
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:43 am to
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But yes, it is not a bad approach. Brian Kelly, Urban Meyer, Art Briles come to mind

Based on the list above, you would hope Gill is the exception and not the rule.
Posted by JDM1992
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:31 pm to
When you hire a lower-tier coach, you have to do a lot of research. Ask the question, why are they successful? Have they sustained long-term success? It's a big risk, you could end up with Turner Gill. More often than not, you will hire Turner Gill, but there might be an Urban Meyer in there somewhere.

If I were AD, I'd look at the conference as a whole. Why did this school have success under this coach? And did it have more to do with other teams not being good?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:40 pm to
With a guy like Taggart, you can look at his style of play and his coaching lineage and get a good feel for how he'll do going forward. He's built that WKU program from basically the ground up, and he's winning with a style that pretty much no one else on that level is winning with. His teams also don't get intimidated.

Mark Hudspeth has a history of being successful wherever he's been. On the D2 level, as an offensive asst in the SEC, and basically has brought the ULL program to new heights in a very short amount of time.

They're both in the Sunbelt, so you could make the argument that everyone else around them is bad, but the fallacy with that is that every team in the Sunbelt has always been bad. It's only recently that guys are being successful at those schools. I think it says more about Freeze, Malzahn, Hud and Taggart than the competition they face.
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:49 pm to
Chip Kelly came from New Hampshire
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:08 pm to
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Mark Hudspeth

Does he have the assistant coach who had blood running down his forehead at the Bowl Game last year? If so, I want them both as the next Auburn HC.

quote:

Chip Kelly came from New Hampshire

Good Point
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:16 pm to
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Does he have the assistant coach who had blood running down his forehead at the Bowl Game last year? If so, I want them both as the next Auburn HC.

That was the S&C guy. Gameday profiled him last week, I didn't really watch much of it, but it's probably on ESPN's website.

ETA: And Hudspeth had success at UNA, so he's familiar with recruiting in the south, particularly Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 1:18 pm
Posted by FatDrunknStupid
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:22 pm to
I met a UL recruiter at a wedding about a year ago. Hudspeth runs a well oiled machine in Lafayette. I've got all the respect in the world for the guy and his program. He took a dumpster fire team and turned them into a bowl winning team. I think he'd do really well in the SEC, given his background in the South.
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:58 pm to
Didnt know Hudspeth has ties to UNA. Makes me wonder how Auburn would react to him as HC
Posted by JDM1992
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:00 pm to
It would be interesting. Although, the last guy to precede Terry Bowden as HC turned out pretty well
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:03 pm to
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Chip Kelly came from New Hampshire


He was never Head Coach at New Hampshire, he was Oregon OC when he was named Head Coach.

Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:44 pm to
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Still not a slam dunk. Look at Turner Gill.
I don't think it's a good comparison to make towards Gill.

He had one winning season before landing a big gig. If anyone has a similar story-line, it's Derek Dooley. One winning season at La Tech.
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