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stapuffmarshy
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re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires

the question to ask yourself if you are not a Hog or Eagle is WOuld I want this guy as my head coach if so and so left


I'd take Les over both, who wouldn't?? so that's not very fair but life isn't either


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TigerintheNO
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Gus


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jack6294
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Who is REALLY available?


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TH03
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Bret Bielema is probably a better hire than Les Miles was at the time. He won 11 games at Wisconsin last year. I'd say that's a lot better than what Miles did at Okie State. He's a great hire IMO.

Gus, however, is a bad, bad hire. Auburn needs someone who's a proven winner, not a guy still figuring out the things a head coach needs to know and do. Not too mention, he's not too far removed from being a high school coach.


LSUSOBEAST1
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Bret Bielema is probably a better hire than Les Miles was at the time. He won 11 games at Wisconsin last year. I'd say that's a lot better than what Miles did at Okie State. He's a great hire IMO.



Jesus people need to get a clue. The comparisons to Miles are hilarious.


TH03
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I just noticed everyone is saying that


You can't deny that 11 wins at Wisconsin is pretty impressive. Let's see what he does with a lot more talent.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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Regardless of their records/resume when they were hired, Bielema is in a 10x harder situation than Miles came into. He is entering a division that has 4 out of the last 5 national champions, possibly 5 of the last 6. He is coming into a division that has 3 10-win teams this season. He is bringing an offense where he will have to out-recruit Saban AND Miles just to have marginal success. On top of that, he is in a state with mediocre high-school talent.

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You can't deny that 11 wins at Wisconsin is pretty impressive. Let's see what he does with a lot more talent.



But a 2-4 bowl record including 0-2 in BCS games is slightly more telling.
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TH03
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I absolutely agree, but it's not like the only good players go to LSU or Bama and the ones that end up at Arky turn out to suck. He'll get his share of good recruits.


LSUSOBEAST1
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You can't deny that 11 wins at Wisconsin is pretty impressive. Let's see what he does with a lot more talent.



But a 2-4 bowl record including 0-2 in BCS games is slightly more telling.


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TH03
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12-1 in his first season, 3 straight 10+ win seasons, 2 straight 11 win seasons. Lost very close, hard fought rose bowls by 2 points and 7 points. Beat the SEC west champions Arkansas in 2006 to cap off the 12 win season. 3 straight Big 10 champs.


He's a good hire


LSUSOBEAST1
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Did you read the thread? shite.


GerryDiNardo
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re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires
The thing you kept hearing coming into this season was how much the departure of key assistants was affecting the coaching staff. Those assistants left with Chryst to go to Pitt. How much of the success of the offense (which clearly wasn't anywhere near as successful this season) was due to Chryst?


TH03
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They just put 70 points on a 10 win team


TH03
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Which thread?


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castorinho
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Yeah fine but who could they have realistically hired?
What do you suggest? They would have to break the bank to get someone that fit the criteria you listed in the OP.


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GerryDiNardo
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They just put 70 points on a 10 win team


They also put up 16 against Utah State, 7 against Oregon State, 13 against Michigan State and 14 against Ohio State.


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LSU GrandDad
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In a division that just finished the regular season with 3 10-win teams, Arky and Auburn needed to make perfect hires. Neither one of them did that


you do not know that. the problem with hiring a new hc is that you DO NOT KNOW WHO WILL BE A PERFECT HIRE (if there is such a thing).


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They both needed big names. Dynamic, inspiring leaders with tremendous recruiting skills. Coaches who could shake up the division and get the most out of their current players. Nationally prominent coaches who have had significant tangible success. Progressive coaches who will bring sustainable, tactical success.


the guy you describe should be running for president. you have thrown out a lot of generalizations that, imo, are hogwash (no pun intended). the phrase "kick-ass football" and "sustainable, tactical success" don't go together. really, who gives a damn if a coach is progressive? you need to put your thesarius down.


LooseCannon22282
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Gus Malzahn is one of the best offensive minds I have ever seen he's going to wreck the SEC.



well, he did a lot more with Chris Todd at QB than I'm sure most thought he would. Auburn won 8 games in 2009. We know what happened in 2010, then you have 2011. They were 8-5 that year and had Barrett Trotter and Clint Moseley at QB.

Auburn scored a lot of points while he was their OC. They didn't lose ANY games when they scored 30 points or more in that time.


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LSUSOBEAST1
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the phrase "kick-ass football" and "sustainable, tactical success" don't go together.


"Kick-ass football"? What?

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really, who gives a damn if a coach is progressive?






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hogminer
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LSU GrandDad


You're alright Granddad.

I hope you "limit out" the rest of duck season.


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