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re: Economics Book Club (EBC): Book 4 Starts Aug 21 (The Smartest Guys in the Room)
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:22 pm to RedStickBR
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:22 pm to RedStickBR
My vote:
Just added it to my Kindle.
Seems reasonable to start with a Basic Economics quick read before getting into Applied Economics.
quote:
2. Economics in One Lesson: The Shortest and Surest Way to Understand Basic Economics - Henry Hazlitt - LINK
Just added it to my Kindle.
Seems reasonable to start with a Basic Economics quick read before getting into Applied Economics.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:26 pm to bayoubengals88
We can add that one to the reading list.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:26 pm to Willie Stroker
Yea I'm good with that. Is June 12 the start date to start reading or have the book done? or are we doing sections? I can potentially squeeze it in with my other reading
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:29 pm to Buckeye06
Seems like most people are converging on Economics in One Lesson followed by Applied Economics, but we'll see how the rest vote.
Start date is June 12. It looks like a pretty easy read and is about 200 pages. Could probably do 100 pages a week pretty easily if everyone doesn't think that's too much of a stretch.
Or we can spread out more to encourage more detailed discussion.
Start date is June 12. It looks like a pretty easy read and is about 200 pages. Could probably do 100 pages a week pretty easily if everyone doesn't think that's too much of a stretch.
Or we can spread out more to encourage more detailed discussion.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:31 pm to Willie Stroker
Were you able to find the free version for your Kindle?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:35 pm to RedStickBR
Btw guys I have a PDF copy of Margin of Safety that I emailed to the TDbookclub email if any of you want it.
Book costs like $900 so will save everyone a lot of $.
Using that email to share book pdfs or downloads should be really good for everyone to save $$
Book costs like $900 so will save everyone a lot of $.
Using that email to share book pdfs or downloads should be really good for everyone to save $$
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:45 pm to Lsujacket66
That would be another good one to add to the list. I'll update our Goodreads account soon with all of the reading list.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:22 pm to RedStickBR
I'd like to join in. I'm currently a Senior in college studying Finance. Seems like a good thing to get into for the summer.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:50 pm to Zooted
Great. Welcome. Have your vote.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:22 pm to RedStickBR
quote:
Were you able to find the free version for your Kindle?
No, paid the full Kindle price
But as an example of the steep Kindle discounts, boner alert: Alexis de Tocqueville's, Democracy in America: The Complete and Unabridged Volumes I and II can be had for only 99 cents.
It's like Christmas in June.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 9:32 pm to Willie Stroker
People need to order their books if we are starting Monday, so I'm going to close this poll at around lunch time tomorrow. Get your votes in!
The plan is to use the top two or three vote-receiving books to put a schedule together for the next two months or so. Ready to drill down into some of this and see where we end up.
The plan is to use the top two or three vote-receiving books to put a schedule together for the next two months or so. Ready to drill down into some of this and see where we end up.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 9:51 pm to Willie Stroker
I've actually never read DIA from cover to cover. It should be added to the queue. We're going to have a good mix of heady stuff and more entertaining stuff. Will be a good group. Still surprised we're up to 22 participants. If we get even half that amount to participate on a regular basis, this will be tremendously beneficial for all involved.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 10:00 pm to RedStickBR
AGreed, thanks for starting this! Hell thanks for introducing me to the book board haha
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:15 am to Lsujacket66
All,
Just a quick note that Economics in One Lesson is available free via PDF here:
LINK
It is also free via Audio here:
LINK
Sowell's Applied Economics is available free via PDF here:
LINK
Some of you may have known this already, but the reason these free PDFs are so cool is because you can send them to your Kindle (for a small data consumption fee) and read them just like any other Kindle book with search and dictionary, etc. All it takes is emailing it to your kindle's email address with "convert" (without quotes) in the subject line and the PDF attached.
Those instructions are here:
LINK
Finally, the Goodreads page has all books that have been recommended added and you can see we have a great economics base with some business, finance, stats, sociology, history and urban planning thrown in. This diversity should keep things interesting. They are all under the "book-club" bookshelf. Feel free to add to the list as you wish.
Just a quick note that Economics in One Lesson is available free via PDF here:
LINK
It is also free via Audio here:
LINK
Sowell's Applied Economics is available free via PDF here:
LINK
Some of you may have known this already, but the reason these free PDFs are so cool is because you can send them to your Kindle (for a small data consumption fee) and read them just like any other Kindle book with search and dictionary, etc. All it takes is emailing it to your kindle's email address with "convert" (without quotes) in the subject line and the PDF attached.
Those instructions are here:
LINK
Finally, the Goodreads page has all books that have been recommended added and you can see we have a great economics base with some business, finance, stats, sociology, history and urban planning thrown in. This diversity should keep things interesting. They are all under the "book-club" bookshelf. Feel free to add to the list as you wish.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:37 am to zatetic
Judging by the negative and no positive, no one clicked this link. So I'm posting it one last time in hopes you watch it, it is a great link and only five minutes. You won't not like this link unless you are a real sourpuss
Mankiw's 10 principles of economics, translated for the uninitiated
https://youtu.be/5uZdr4dk5CQ
Mankiw's 10 principles of economics, translated for the uninitiated
https://youtu.be/5uZdr4dk5CQ
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:42 am to zatetic
I watched it the first time. It was pretty funny in an economics nerd kind of way.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:57 am to RedStickBR
I thought people must have thought it had something to do with my negative money printing thoughts. I'm jaded that we haven't had a real crash yet for 2008. Maybe too much zerohedge in my life... It is admirable to start an educational book club though, so kudos to you
I've started believing long term stock holding is almost entirely making money via inflation or money printing:
What is the con? The con is that economic growth is both good and real. It is most often neither. The long con is nominal returns versus real returns.
What keeps the con going? Apart from greed? Money printing.
Please, understand that if the amount of money in a closed system doubles, the value of each monetary unit halves, and the price of everything, including stocks, increases 100%.
I've started believing long term stock holding is almost entirely making money via inflation or money printing:
What is the con? The con is that economic growth is both good and real. It is most often neither. The long con is nominal returns versus real returns.
What keeps the con going? Apart from greed? Money printing.
Please, understand that if the amount of money in a closed system doubles, the value of each monetary unit halves, and the price of everything, including stocks, increases 100%.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:57 am to RedStickBR
I vote Intelligent Investor
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:58 am to zatetic
There's no doubt expansion of the monetary base has led to a sustained rise in stock prices, but that's not the most proximate cause, in my opinion. Sure, it may be the ultimate cause, but the more direct cause is that historically low interest rates have allowed companies to engage in a level of financial engineering that is perhaps unprecedented in modern history. This ranges from simple refinancings to recapitalizations and even to debt issuances for the express purpose of funding share buybacks and dividends. In the aggregate, we've seen a market-wide and relatively massive decrease in the weighted average cost of capital which, given the lower implied discount rate, has resulted in higher equity valuations. As the tide goes back out, we'll see who can actually support the debt. The only thing that will burst the bubble will be a large increase in interest rates or reaching the point of maximum aggregate debt capacity. We could be close to both, but where else is there to put your money? The bond market is also arguably in bubble territory.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 9:24 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:50 am to RedStickBR
Good stuff, good stuff! We're not e-reader fans in our house, so I ordered a good used copy of the Economics in One Lesson for just $8, including postage. I have a feeling it will be a book I will want other members of the family to read as well.
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