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re: Economics Book Club (EBC): Book 4 Starts Aug 21 (The Smartest Guys in the Room)

Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12872 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:22 pm to
My vote:

quote:

2. Economics in One Lesson: The Shortest and Surest Way to Understand Basic Economics - Henry Hazlitt - LINK


Just added it to my Kindle.

Seems reasonable to start with a Basic Economics quick read before getting into Applied Economics.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:26 pm to
We can add that one to the reading list.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23114 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:26 pm to
Yea I'm good with that. Is June 12 the start date to start reading or have the book done? or are we doing sections? I can potentially squeeze it in with my other reading
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:29 pm to
Seems like most people are converging on Economics in One Lesson followed by Applied Economics, but we'll see how the rest vote.

Start date is June 12. It looks like a pretty easy read and is about 200 pages. Could probably do 100 pages a week pretty easily if everyone doesn't think that's too much of a stretch.

Or we can spread out more to encourage more detailed discussion.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:31 pm to
Were you able to find the free version for your Kindle?
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4792 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:35 pm to
Btw guys I have a PDF copy of Margin of Safety that I emailed to the TDbookclub email if any of you want it.

Book costs like $900 so will save everyone a lot of $.

Using that email to share book pdfs or downloads should be really good for everyone to save $$
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:45 pm to
That would be another good one to add to the list. I'll update our Goodreads account soon with all of the reading list.
Posted by Zooted
Nawlins
Member since Jun 2017
44 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:22 pm to
I'd like to join in. I'm currently a Senior in college studying Finance. Seems like a good thing to get into for the summer.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:50 pm to
Great. Welcome. Have your vote.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12872 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Were you able to find the free version for your Kindle?



No, paid the full Kindle price

But as an example of the steep Kindle discounts, boner alert: Alexis de Tocqueville's, Democracy in America: The Complete and Unabridged Volumes I and II can be had for only 99 cents.

It's like Christmas in June.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 9:32 pm to
People need to order their books if we are starting Monday, so I'm going to close this poll at around lunch time tomorrow. Get your votes in!

The plan is to use the top two or three vote-receiving books to put a schedule together for the next two months or so. Ready to drill down into some of this and see where we end up.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 9:51 pm to
I've actually never read DIA from cover to cover. It should be added to the queue. We're going to have a good mix of heady stuff and more entertaining stuff. Will be a good group. Still surprised we're up to 22 participants. If we get even half that amount to participate on a regular basis, this will be tremendously beneficial for all involved.

Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4792 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 10:00 pm to
AGreed, thanks for starting this! Hell thanks for introducing me to the book board haha
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:15 am to
All,

Just a quick note that Economics in One Lesson is available free via PDF here:

LINK

It is also free via Audio here:

LINK

Sowell's Applied Economics is available free via PDF here:

LINK

Some of you may have known this already, but the reason these free PDFs are so cool is because you can send them to your Kindle (for a small data consumption fee) and read them just like any other Kindle book with search and dictionary, etc. All it takes is emailing it to your kindle's email address with "convert" (without quotes) in the subject line and the PDF attached.

Those instructions are here:

LINK

Finally, the Goodreads page has all books that have been recommended added and you can see we have a great economics base with some business, finance, stats, sociology, history and urban planning thrown in. This diversity should keep things interesting. They are all under the "book-club" bookshelf. Feel free to add to the list as you wish.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:37 am to
Judging by the negative and no positive, no one clicked this link. So I'm posting it one last time in hopes you watch it, it is a great link and only five minutes. You won't not like this link unless you are a real sourpuss

Mankiw's 10 principles of economics, translated for the uninitiated
https://youtu.be/5uZdr4dk5CQ
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:42 am to
I watched it the first time. It was pretty funny in an economics nerd kind of way.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:57 am to
I thought people must have thought it had something to do with my negative money printing thoughts. I'm jaded that we haven't had a real crash yet for 2008. Maybe too much zerohedge in my life... It is admirable to start an educational book club though, so kudos to you

I've started believing long term stock holding is almost entirely making money via inflation or money printing:

What is the con? The con is that economic growth is both good and real. It is most often neither. The long con is nominal returns versus real returns.
What keeps the con going? Apart from greed? Money printing.
Please, understand that if the amount of money in a closed system doubles, the value of each monetary unit halves, and the price of everything, including stocks, increases 100%.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3150 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:57 am to
I vote Intelligent Investor
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:58 am to
There's no doubt expansion of the monetary base has led to a sustained rise in stock prices, but that's not the most proximate cause, in my opinion. Sure, it may be the ultimate cause, but the more direct cause is that historically low interest rates have allowed companies to engage in a level of financial engineering that is perhaps unprecedented in modern history. This ranges from simple refinancings to recapitalizations and even to debt issuances for the express purpose of funding share buybacks and dividends. In the aggregate, we've seen a market-wide and relatively massive decrease in the weighted average cost of capital which, given the lower implied discount rate, has resulted in higher equity valuations. As the tide goes back out, we'll see who can actually support the debt. The only thing that will burst the bubble will be a large increase in interest rates or reaching the point of maximum aggregate debt capacity. We could be close to both, but where else is there to put your money? The bond market is also arguably in bubble territory.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12011 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:50 am to
Good stuff, good stuff! We're not e-reader fans in our house, so I ordered a good used copy of the Economics in One Lesson for just $8, including postage. I have a feeling it will be a book I will want other members of the family to read as well.
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