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EBC Book #4 - Smartest Guys in the Room by Bethany McLean and Peter Elkind (Starts Aug 21)
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:12 pm
Book #4 is our first non-economics selection in the series. We'll start this one Monday the 21st. Should be an interesting read. I suggest we slow burn it a bit. We've been moving at a pretty respectable pace. Maybe we'll split it into fifths or sixths.
By the way, I'm not sure what kind of participation we are getting, but even if myself and Willie (or even just myself) were the only ones, I plan on keeping these threads going. Anyone can jump on and off the train as they please, but the train's gonna keep on truckin'.
This pacing and structure are doing wonders for the consistency of my reading.
By the way, I'm not sure what kind of participation we are getting, but even if myself and Willie (or even just myself) were the only ones, I plan on keeping these threads going. Anyone can jump on and off the train as they please, but the train's gonna keep on truckin'.
This pacing and structure are doing wonders for the consistency of my reading.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:24 pm to RedStickBR
I'm going to try to. Been really busy lately so we'll see how it goes, but sounds interesting.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:21 pm to DavidTheGnome
Great. By the way, pacing for this one is 20% per week.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:10 pm to RedStickBR
I'm in chapter 2 (8% in). I highlighted the following passage to give it more thought.
I'm probably overlooking something very obvious, but how is shifting profits causing Wall Street to view this as steadily increasing earnings? If profits shift, don't you have to take from one month to give to the next? Or take from one year to give to the next year?
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he believed Borget’s actions were perfectly legal. But in testimony given over a decade ago, Borget said that Harding asked him to shift profits, originally for tax reasons. He also said that Harding approved bonuses as if the shifted profits from Enron Oil had remained in the year in which they were earned. For his part, Sulentic later testified that Enron Oil and other subsidiaries were “routinely instructed by Enron senior management to shift profits from month to month and year to year.”
It was easy enough to understand why Enron would want to do this: like every public company, it hoped to show Wall Street that it could produce steadily increasing earnings, which is what the stock market rewards.
I'm probably overlooking something very obvious, but how is shifting profits causing Wall Street to view this as steadily increasing earnings? If profits shift, don't you have to take from one month to give to the next? Or take from one year to give to the next year?
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:17 pm to Willie Stroker
I think their point is that Wall Street values steadily increasing profits more so than profits that may be identical in the aggregate but otherwise exhibit a more volatile pattern. Having worked in equity research and asset management, I can confirm investors like little more than companies whose earnings steadily increase each and every quarter/year. One portfolio manager I used to work for called them "Steady Eddies." From a theoretical perspective, the higher the volatility, the higher the risk. The higher the risk, the larger the discount rate you'd use to discount the company's cash flows. The higher the discount rate used, the lower the net present value of the company. Seasonality is generally frowned upon by investors.
The tax issue that is also referenced is likewise interesting. Remember, the income statement can be gamed, but the cash flow statement dictates how much money an owner can put in his pocket. And companies pay taxes based on their reported income statement profits. So, if you shift profit on the income statement from one quarter into a later quarter, you're deferring your tax liability even though your pre-tax cash from operations would be identical. Since cash taxes are lower now that your income statement profit is lower, you can put more cash in your pocket than you'd be able to if you paid the full amount in taxes today. Notice your quote says bonuses were approved as if the profits were earned in the current year. They were essentially evading taxes temporarily by not realizing the associated liability until a later date, thereby reducing the net present value of the tax liability. Unlike legal means for doing this (such as accelerated depreciation), doing this by intentionally understating taxable profits is fraudulent.
The tax issue that is also referenced is likewise interesting. Remember, the income statement can be gamed, but the cash flow statement dictates how much money an owner can put in his pocket. And companies pay taxes based on their reported income statement profits. So, if you shift profit on the income statement from one quarter into a later quarter, you're deferring your tax liability even though your pre-tax cash from operations would be identical. Since cash taxes are lower now that your income statement profit is lower, you can put more cash in your pocket than you'd be able to if you paid the full amount in taxes today. Notice your quote says bonuses were approved as if the profits were earned in the current year. They were essentially evading taxes temporarily by not realizing the associated liability until a later date, thereby reducing the net present value of the tax liability. Unlike legal means for doing this (such as accelerated depreciation), doing this by intentionally understating taxable profits is fraudulent.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:05 pm to RedStickBR
Fascinating read so far and a real indictment of late 20th-century corporate culture with its executive imperialism and insatiable greed. I can honestly say I think corporate America has come a long way since the 80s and 90s.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:26 pm to RedStickBR
I haven't read this one yet but I read All The Devils Are Here by McLean (about the 2008 financial crisis) and enjoyed it immensely. I will put this one on my list for the future.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:42 am to OldTigahFot
Sounds like a good one to add to our list as well. Thanks
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:17 am to Willie Stroker
Willie, having now read before and after the section you described, it appears there was a third reason they were shifting profits (in addition to showing Wall Street steadily increasing earnings and for tax reasons). Their debt covenants required them to maintain 1.2x interest coverage and that ratio would apply to each and every period. With the volatile nature of their earnings, showing 1.8x one quarter but 1.0x the next (even though the average would be 1.4x) would still trip their covenants. So in the periods where they had more than enough income to cover their 1.2x interest coverage covenant, they would "save some earnings" for periods in which they expected to fall below 1.2x.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:09 pm to RedStickBR
This book is a classic. Kicking myself for not having read it earlier. This should be required reading in college-level business classes.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:02 am to RedStickBR
Dear God. The bits about the SPEs being used to disguise debt as equity and the prepayment schemes (which sound an awful lot like capital leases) are nothing short of mind-blowing. What's worse than the financial voodoo itself is the fact it took so long for anyone to catch on. You could literally use this textbook and the lessons contained to teach a very interesting forensic accounting course.
My view is that Fastow, so far, is the scummiest of the bunch.
My view is that Fastow, so far, is the scummiest of the bunch.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 12:04 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:57 am to RedStickBR
I've seen the documentary but have never read the book. had a to do a fraud triangle analysis on Enron. I remember reading about the SPE schemes in my financial statement analysis course. I also remember having an assignment on Sherron Watkins the whistleblower.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 3:43 pm to jamsmiley
This should be required reading for business students. Also not a bad read before sitting for Level 2 of the CFA exam. A lot of the red flags they teach you to look out for should have been present in the Enron financials. I'm curious to go back and pore through a few annual reports from the mid-late 90s.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:48 pm to RedStickBR
I may pick it up when I buy Money the Unauthorized biography by Felix Martin
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:49 pm to RedStickBR
In accounting school we had to read this and watch the movie and is probably one of the most interesting things I've ever read.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:14 am to JumpingTheShark
I'm looking forward to watching the film after next week when we've finished the book.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:56 am to RedStickBR
You'll love it. Book is a slow read due to its technical nature but that doesn't take away from the enjoyment in the least.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:58 am to RedStickBR
Lou Pai is the scummiest IMHO.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:22 am to JumpingTheShark
Lou Pai got away almost completely free, quite bizarre.
Posted on 9/16/17 at 10:13 am to RedStickBR
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My view is that Fastow, so far, is the scummiest of the bunch.
I've been away from the book thanks to Harvey but I'm hoping to get back on track soon. I'm looking forward to the focus on Fastow. I've been in his home, spent time with him after his arrest and I'm familiar with his criminal conduct. But I've always been curious about how he was characterized in this book.
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