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Dark Matter
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:21 pm
I'm not sure where I saw this recommended, but I just finished the audiobook recently based on some positive vibes I read somewhere. What is the board's thoughts on this one?
I was highly disappointed. I thought there was a really intriguing story here, and there were many cool ideas that came out of it. Unfortunately the wordcraft was very subpar, and there were some serious forced plot points to move the story along that didn't make sense to me. I don't want to delve into spoilers, so I will leave it at that.
I see there's a followup book to this as well as his Wayward Pines series. Any feedback on these? Does his writing style improve any, or should I expect more of the same? I thought the world he created was interesting enough to continue on as long as his wordcraft and plot mapping become more refined.
Overall this was a 5/10 book for me
I was highly disappointed. I thought there was a really intriguing story here, and there were many cool ideas that came out of it. Unfortunately the wordcraft was very subpar, and there were some serious forced plot points to move the story along that didn't make sense to me. I don't want to delve into spoilers, so I will leave it at that.
I see there's a followup book to this as well as his Wayward Pines series. Any feedback on these? Does his writing style improve any, or should I expect more of the same? I thought the world he created was interesting enough to continue on as long as his wordcraft and plot mapping become more refined.
Overall this was a 5/10 book for me
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:51 pm to Midget Death Squad
I didn't like it either. Had a lot of potential just missed the bar in my opinion.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:35 pm to Midget Death Squad
This was one of the most disappointing books I’ve read in a while.
When I saw the description, I immediate grabbed it to read.
I thought the idea was amazing and it could have been one of the best sci-fi books in recent memory.
But it just wasn’t well written, was too superficial.
It felt like somebody had written a truly great story, but all I got was Blake Crouch’s summary of it.
Almost like reading a script rather than a novel.
When I saw the description, I immediate grabbed it to read.
I thought the idea was amazing and it could have been one of the best sci-fi books in recent memory.
But it just wasn’t well written, was too superficial.
It felt like somebody had written a truly great story, but all I got was Blake Crouch’s summary of it.
Almost like reading a script rather than a novel.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:28 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
This is spot on. It felt like a series of events took place without any depth to them. Plus he painted himself into a corner by creating limitations to the box yet breaking those limitations to make the story progress.
SPOILER TERRITORY:
He never once explained how Jason2 was able to send Jason1 precisely to his world. What a huge hole to never fill.
The other major issue I had is with all the Jasons at the end acting like a bunch of deranged killers. There was not much separation J1 from all the other Js, and he even goes as far to make sure the reader knows they act and think alike, yet somehow they were cold blooded killers. Most annoyingly was how often J1 kept telling his wife and son that they were in danger. That makes zero sense to the character that he developed with Jason.
It was frustratingly bad at times, which is annoying since he created a really cool universe with a ton of story potential.
SPOILER TERRITORY:
He never once explained how Jason2 was able to send Jason1 precisely to his world. What a huge hole to never fill.
The other major issue I had is with all the Jasons at the end acting like a bunch of deranged killers. There was not much separation J1 from all the other Js, and he even goes as far to make sure the reader knows they act and think alike, yet somehow they were cold blooded killers. Most annoyingly was how often J1 kept telling his wife and son that they were in danger. That makes zero sense to the character that he developed with Jason.
It was frustratingly bad at times, which is annoying since he created a really cool universe with a ton of story potential.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:00 pm to Midget Death Squad
This book had such potential. It is setup for a fantastic take on multiverse shenanigans but man does it fall flat overall. I read it within the last year and have forgotten 98% of it
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:07 pm to Midget Death Squad
Agree with all of that.
It’s been a few years since I’ve read it but I remember terribly poor character development
He gave me no reason to actually care about any of the characters
It’s been a few years since I’ve read it but I remember terribly poor character development
He gave me no reason to actually care about any of the characters
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:20 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Midget Death Squad
If you want to read a book with some similar themes (but also very different), try The Fold by Peter Clines.
Much better written and takes some wild turns.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:31 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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The Fold by Peter Clines
I will. Appreciate the suggestion
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:18 am to Midget Death Squad
I liked it. Interesting mix of sci-fi and thriller almost horror. I wasn't expecting a lot of "wordcraft" or character development. As far as forced plot points, the whole thing was a bit preposterous, but that is the nature of almost all sci-fi. If it doesn't push the envelope, it becomes a bit boring. I enjoyed the unique story and fast pace. Currently slogging through Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos; now that is the place for character development.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:28 pm to Midget Death Squad
I saw this recommended online and was looking for something new and the synopsis grabbed me so I gave it a read. I finished it this afternoon and really enjoyed it, I'm kind of surprised to see that it's pretty much all negative reviews on here. When I read a book I want to be entertained, nothing more, and this definitely kept me engaged all the way through.
SPOILERS
Now that I think about it you're right, we don't get that explanation. But honeslty it never even crossed my mind until right now. In hindsight yeah that's a pretty big plot hole, but it never lessened my enjoyment while reading.
I can definitely see it. I mean think abour your own life...if your wife nad child that you'd built the last 15 years of your life with were all of a sudden no longer yours and belonged to some weird offshoot of you, wouldn't you be willing to do just about anything to get YOUR life back? I know that since we aren't actually in that predicament it's fun to discuss our options, but I can at least understant WHY so many of them were like that.
It was also explained that each jason is a delineation from some point in time from the original. J2 for instance, the one that started all this mess, was the exact same person as "our" Jason, original Jason, up to the point that daniela found out she was pregnant. That instant multiple timelimes with multiple outcomes. In "our" world that we know for original jason, he's married to daniela for years and charlie is 15. In J2's timeline they are only together a brief period (never married) and certainly don't hav ea child or a long history. Our jason even tricked J2 by giving false information about a christmas vacation that never actually happened by J2 had no idea it wasn't real. J2 for all practical purposes was a completely and totally different personality than the one we know.
it certainly wasn't steinbeck or anything, but as you mentioned it was a cool universe and a neat concept. I won't ever read it again but I definitely enjoyed the ride this go around.
I'll also be sure to check out the other book recommend up above.
SPOILERS
quote:
e never once explained how Jason2 was able to send Jason1 precisely to his world. What a huge hole to never fill.
Now that I think about it you're right, we don't get that explanation. But honeslty it never even crossed my mind until right now. In hindsight yeah that's a pretty big plot hole, but it never lessened my enjoyment while reading.
quote:
The other major issue I had is with all the Jasons at the end acting like a bunch of deranged killers
I can definitely see it. I mean think abour your own life...if your wife nad child that you'd built the last 15 years of your life with were all of a sudden no longer yours and belonged to some weird offshoot of you, wouldn't you be willing to do just about anything to get YOUR life back? I know that since we aren't actually in that predicament it's fun to discuss our options, but I can at least understant WHY so many of them were like that.
quote:
There was not much separation J1 from all the other Js, and he even goes as far to make sure the reader knows they act and think alike, yet somehow they were cold blooded killers.
It was also explained that each jason is a delineation from some point in time from the original. J2 for instance, the one that started all this mess, was the exact same person as "our" Jason, original Jason, up to the point that daniela found out she was pregnant. That instant multiple timelimes with multiple outcomes. In "our" world that we know for original jason, he's married to daniela for years and charlie is 15. In J2's timeline they are only together a brief period (never married) and certainly don't hav ea child or a long history. Our jason even tricked J2 by giving false information about a christmas vacation that never actually happened by J2 had no idea it wasn't real. J2 for all practical purposes was a completely and totally different personality than the one we know.
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It was frustratingly bad at times, which is annoying since he created a really cool universe with a ton of story potential.
it certainly wasn't steinbeck or anything, but as you mentioned it was a cool universe and a neat concept. I won't ever read it again but I definitely enjoyed the ride this go around.
I'll also be sure to check out the other book recommend up above.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:01 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
quote:
If you want to read a book with some similar themes (but also very different), try The Fold by Peter Clines.
I like to go into a book mostly blind, and a very quick search shows this is book #2 in a series. Do you need to read the first book before this one or does it hold up as a standalone?
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