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Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:46 am to LSUGoose
The problem is that there are 4 other SEC teams that are 13-17 and have a better RPI than LSU. And 3 of those 4 have a series win against us. That’s a major problem.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:51 am to cafeaulait19
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Really hope they don’t cap conferences when clearly SEC teams are at the top of all their metrics.
There has to be a line of delineation where your KPI is only as high as it is because of the conference you play in. Where that line is..... you can clearly tell it is somewhere around 13 wins. How do you seperate those teams? I don't know.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 11:29 am to Metaloctopus
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f LSU wins the SEC tournament, they are quite possibly a 2 seed. 2 wins likely clinches a tournament bid, and some argue we're already in. They do not need to win the tournament, by any means.
If they win the tournament, I agree with a 2-3 seed because of how they finished. Winning 2 games may or may not make it happen depending on UF.
Beating UGA and KY will be a boost but maybe not as much as one would think.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:05 pm to Tiger1988
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It isn’t the 13 - 17 record. It is the position in where they ended at 11.
Actually, they tied for 8th
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:13 pm to Tiger1988
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If they win the tournament, I agree with a 2-3 seed because of how they finished
What in the world are you talking about? Do you think there is a world where LSU would be a 4 seed?
If LSU wins the SEC tournament they have a 0% chance of being a 3 seed. They also have a 0% chance of being a 4 seed, regardless of anything else happening.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:14 pm to DunbartonLATiger
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However, every single time I read one of your posts I keep questioning if you are a troll, an a-hole, just plain dumb, or all of the above
It's most certainly dumb.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:14 pm to Tiger1988
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It isn’t the 13 - 17 record. It is the position in where they ended at 11.
They do not care about what seed you are. That’s literally just for seeding purposes.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:33 pm to Tiger1988
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If they win the tournament, I agree with a 2-3 seed because of how they finished. Winning 2 games may or may not make it happen depending on UF.
Beating UGA and KY will be a boost but maybe not as much as one would think.
It's not about how they would have finished, for me, it's just what the resume would reflect at that point. There are teams who are playing terrible right now (like Vandy) who have the same conference record as LSU, but are considered in, at the moment, because of their overall resume. LSU is right there on the line. Nobody knows which side of the line they are on, but they are right up against it.
If they go out and win the tournament, which would be 5 games against teams who are likely all high in the RPI (because who doesn't have at least a top 30 RPI in this league?), then they will very, very likely be a 2 seed. There's no real reason why they shouldn't be a 2 seed at that point, but the committee sometimes makes no sense. But, again, 2 wins is really all they should need, at the most, to get a berth. And being less than a 3 seed is not on the table for an at large SEC team.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:35 pm to BourreTheDog
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Actually, they tied for 8th
7th actually
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:36 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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What in the world are you talking about? Do you think there is a world where LSU would be a 4 seed?
I agreed that they would be a 2 or 3 seed if they win the SEC Tournament. What in the world are you talking about? Do you think they would be a 4 seed?
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If LSU wins the SEC tournament they have a 0% chance of being a 3 seed.
Really? 0% for the 11th place team in the SEC? 0%? ZERO. Yeah you think the NcAA hasn’t fricked them before.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:39 pm to Metaloctopus
[quote]It's not about how they would have finished, for me, it's just what the resume would reflect at that point. There are teams who are playing terrible right now (like Vandy) who have the same conference record as LSU, but are considered in, at the moment, because of their overall resume. LSU is right there on the line. Nobody knows which side of the line they are on, but they are right up against it. If they go out and win the tournament, which would be 5 games against teams who are likely all high in the RPI (because who doesn't have at least a top 30 RPI in this league?), then they will very, very likely be a 2 seed. There's no real reason why they shouldn't be a 2 seed at that point, but the committee sometimes makes no sense. But, again, 2 wins is really all they should need, at the most, to get a berth. And being less than a 3 seed is not on the table for an at large SEC
I agree. The issue some people have it they think the SEC tournament matters more than it does.
We have seen this play out several times in the past on seeding and being left out. The SEC claims all games matter including the conference tournament when in reality, the tournament games do not matter as much to the committee. It never has.
I agree. The issue some people have it they think the SEC tournament matters more than it does.
We have seen this play out several times in the past on seeding and being left out. The SEC claims all games matter including the conference tournament when in reality, the tournament games do not matter as much to the committee. It never has.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:50 pm to Tiger1988
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I agree. The issue some people have it they think the SEC tournament matters more than it does.
We have seen this play out several times in the past on seeding and being left out. The SEC claims all games matter including the conference tournament when in reality, the tournament games do not matter as much to the committee. It never has
It doesn't have to matter as much, but it certainly matters a lot. LSU went 14-16 in conference play in 2010, but won the tournament and got a 2 seed. In a deeper league this year, than in 2010, I feel very confident that winning the tournament would lend the same result. I don't expect to win the tourny, but I'll take a couple wins and the ability to relax on selection Monday.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 1:19 pm to Tiger1988
For the 2nd time we are not 11th lol. We are tied for 7th. The committee will look at our conference finish as exactly the same as the other 13-17 teams because it is. Tiebreakers are simply for seeding so a tournament can be held.
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 1:42 pm to Tiger1988
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With that, I don’t think they get in even if they make a little run in the SEC tournament.
Who are the 16 at-large teams behind LSU in RPI that you see getting in? There are so many people making comments like this and not even taking the time to see what it would actually take for LSU to miss the tournament.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 1:48 pm to LSBoosie
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The problem is that there are 4 other SEC teams that are 13-17 and have a better RPI than LSU. And 3 of those 4 have a series win against us. That’s a major problem.
I don’t understand the thought process that RPI is absolutely going to determine the order of SEC teams selected to the tournament, but then people expect the committee to turn around and extend 16 at-large bids to teams behind LSU in RPI, which is what it will take for them not to make the field (minus any bid thieves).
Posted on 5/19/24 at 1:51 pm to Metaloctopus
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It doesn't have to matter as much, but it certainly matters a lot. LSU went 14-16 in conference play in 2010, but won the tournament and got a 2 seed. In a deeper league this year, than in 2010, I feel very confident that winning the tournament would lend the same result. I don't expect to win the tourny, but I'll take a couple wins and the ability to relax on selection Monday.
And in 2011 they had 13-17 conference record and a 23 RPI but missed the SEC tournament and were left out. They had a winning record (around 35-37 wins I think). The committee said a team that doesn’t make its co Terence tournament can’t be in the NCAA tournament - which was complete bull shite.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:36 pm to Tiger1988
You can say we are 11 or you can say we are tied for 7th.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:39 pm to Bedtiger
Or you can say we are tied for 7th with 4 other teams that have higher RPIs with 3 of them beating us head to head
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:17 pm to kbtigers85
Everyone knew that LSU had to win the Bama series to have a chance to make the NCAA Tourney. I’d love to see LSU make the tourney, however, they simply did not do what was necessary to earn a spot. They had their chance and they came up short. Hopefully they win the SEC Tourney and earn their way in.
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