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re: A pitcher hasn’t pitched 250 innings in 14 years. That's wild.

Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:49 am to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:49 am to
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Baseball has 162 games a season and over a 14 yr. period that comes to 2268 games and those games are a minimum of 9 innings each so the total number of innings that he could have pitched in is 20,412.

Who’s gonna tell him
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:49 am to
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Have you ever heard of burrow the qb? It’s what they do when times are hard.


Wut
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:56 am to
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Here's another way of looking at it. Let's just say each inning pitched is a days work. Would you want someone who's worked 250 days out of 20,412????
hell no. That won't work in my small town
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12276 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:03 am to
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hell no. That won't work in my small town

Consumed lol
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14569 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:40 am to
Is this a product of youth league and travel ball adding up?

These kids that play year round and ONLY play baseball I figure an arm could gas out at some point
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:00 am to
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If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
holy sample size batman
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15290 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:10 am to
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you are incorrect.

It is about 250 innings in a year not in 14 years.




Then the thread title was misleading. Should have read "A pitcher hasn't pitched 250 innings a year in 14 years. That's wild"


That way it would have been perfectly clear and not open to interpretation.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:14 am to
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Then the thread title was misleading. Should have read "A pitcher hasn't pitched 250 innings a year in 14 years. That's wild"


I think it’s pretty obvious I meant a year for anyone with an inkling of common sense about baseball.

Did you really think there were no pitchers in last decade who didn't last one inning per start?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85231 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:41 am to
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means that is a pitiful performance rate. Baseball has 162 games a season and over a 14 yr. period that comes to 2268 games and those games are a minimum of 9 innings each so the total number of innings that he could have pitched in is 20,412. To only have pitched in 250 of them is an incredibly low number for someone being paid what Major League pitchers get paid. Here's another way of looking at it. Let's just say each inning pitched is a days work. Would you want someone who's worked 250 days out of 20,412????


You should become a manager.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:42 am to
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All this "just get me through five innings" crap has made the injuries worse.


That has a lot more to do with guys throwing harder than ever, on average, vs innings pitched.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1831 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:46 am to
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That has a lot more to do with guys throwing harder than ever, on average, vs innings pitched.


This, and it’s what the teams want, they want a 110-mph arm on every pitch of every game and they’ll use as many arms as it takes to ensure that, It of course ruins the entertainment value of the game but that begs the question, what should the priority be, entertaining the fans or doing what is required to win in 2024?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85231 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:54 am to
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holy sample size batman


Idk if he’ll keep it up, but he’s thrown 44 innings between minors and MLB and is averaging 14.9K/9. He was at 15.3K/9 at LSU. He’s almost certainly going to have elite strikeouts for a starting pitcher.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145273 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:04 pm to
There is a zero percent chance he has a 45% strikeout rate over a full seasons worth of innings. Zero
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85231 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:13 pm to
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There is a zero percent chance he has a 45% strikeout rate over a full seasons worth of innings. Zero


Yeah I’m not suggesting he will, but he’s going to be elite for a starter. I could see 11-13K/9

ETA - basically DeGrom type of numbers are possible IMO.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4523 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Therefore, Skenes isn't one of these little travel-ball shits who has been throwing curvevalls since he was 8 and whose arm is basically shot.
I laughed at this, because it’s true. My son played against a recent LSU pitcher(in a tournament) who was throwing curves as an 8 year old, lol. The kids could obviously not touch him. One of his coaches was a former high school baseball coach.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34863 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:36 pm to
But is there any real proof that overprotectivness is really saving pitcher's arms and careers?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145273 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:06 pm to
There is none
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47907 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:16 pm to
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they want a 110-mph arm on every pitch of every game


Not every pitch of a game demands a 110 mph arm
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1831 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:41 pm to
Well that was a little hyperbole LOL but I stand by my point, whether it’s a 110-mph heater or a 95-mph slider with demonic spin, the expectation is that every pitch is a game moment, and it wasn’t like that when boomers (and I am one) cut their teeth in the game. And I think that is one of the reasons, aside from over caution, teams use pitchers like they do today. They want perpetual fresh arms, however hard they throw.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 2:42 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34863 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 3:23 pm to
Exactly. No evidence pampering works, but everyone does it.
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