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re: Is tigerdroppings the best place for nonbiased news?

Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:22 pm to
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Pre Trump I there was a lot more intelligent discussion from both sides. Since 2016 this board has really gone down hill.
The few times I’ve tried to engage in thoughtful conversation Within two replies I’m attacked as a chuck or soy boy. I’m too old for name calling and insults.


If you ignore the name callers I promise you many of us are happy to engage in page long polite discourse. Don’t let the morons shouting from the sidelines bother you.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:23 pm to
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which gets called liberal by conservatives and conservative by liberals, which tells me it's doing something right.


There’s your problem.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:24 pm to
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That is completely false.


You have a link to a nonbiased news site or agency? I’d love to subscribe.

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News should be reported without bias. Here is what happened, just the facts, nothing else. News isn't a round table with 5 people giving their opinion on what happened.

I absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with you. But this doesn’t exist anywhere in reality.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:26 pm to
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I never do that and yet you’ve accused me of it twice.


What I'm referring to is you twice asking to be shown a nonbiased media site seemingly to prove that this site is indeed biased.

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You honestly believe ABC and CBS news are two of the top 5 most noNbiased media sites on the planet?


I personally feel that Associated Press and Reuters are up on a giant pedestal and then the drop off is severe after that. I would name BBC and Wall Street Journal as doing pretty well too. But yeah, compared to how bad others get, I think ABC and CBS do pretty well if you ignore the opinion pieces.

How about this? Can you prove to me that ABC and CBS are biased?

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So if I disagree it’s not because you might be wrong but because I have some fundamental misunderstanding that prevents me from seeing things clearly?


If you think that every site I listed is a radical liberal site, yes. If you think that the pure news on ABC and CBS is as heavily biased as MSNBC or CNN, yes.

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You have an arrogance problem. And you’re not as smart as you think you are.


This is a really popular put-down for liberals here, for some reason. Okay, my feelings are hurt I guess?
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20901 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:28 pm to
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When news breaks, it breaks here first. Both sides of the coin are presented here however the majority of the participants are American loving patriots


Couldn't agree more- I consider myself an Independent, I don't watch TV news except I may watch Tucker/Hannity/Ingraham but that is a night or two per week at most. The 'Political Talk' here on Tigerdroppings is on top of every breaking story and most of the posters seem to see through all the hypocrisy out there and think like I do. No two people will ever agree on every issue, but for the most part, this is the best place to get the facts!
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:33 pm to
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What I'm referring to is you twice asking to be shown a nonbiased media site seemingly to prove that this site is indeed biased.


I asked to be shown a nonbiased media site because it is literally the OP and while I assert that it doesn’t exist you keep saying we should only talk about the exact OP. I’d be happy to. Link me an unbiased news site.

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If you think that every site I listed is a radical liberal site, yes.


I never said they were radically liberal. I said they were bias. Bias exists in all forms. You keep making assumptions about my motives and then arguing against those assumed motives. That’s insane and ignorant. Stop it.

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Can you prove to me that ABC and CBS are biased?


Sure. Are they competitive for profit “News” companies run by human beings?

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This is a really popular put-down for liberals here, for some reason.

Are you a liberal? I don’t care. We haven’t discussed anything that would show me one way or the other your political leanings, but you did reveal with your last two posts that you are in fact liberal and you only engaged this topic because you wish there was more liberal content and then you assumed I’m hard right and then you assumed that I don’t like you because I’m hard right and then you started arguing against your own incorrect assumptions.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:37 pm to
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If you ignore the name callers


Names called by Breesus in the past week:

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It's not our fault little melty snowflakes don't post here more. But there are plenty that do. Of course, lefty dipshits who love censorship and propaganda and hate free thought constantly cry that


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This dude [Cuomo] is trying hard to be the biggest piece of shite in the country and he's succeeding


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What about the fact that this makes you a low-T beta?


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Never admit you’re a retard


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Goodell being a whimpy whiney little bitch boy.


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All I’m saying is I wish the media and its blind sheep herds would stop desperately and inaccurately extrapolating national issues from isolated incidents in random podunk shitholes


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I don't know, Ron. You kind of sound like a gay. [Later edited to add] Not that there's anything wrong with that


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Ok thanks, taint cheeks


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Cool blind like, dick nose


Cool, Breesus. Cool.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14872 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:39 pm to
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How else should I interpret this?:


Correctly?
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:41 pm to
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Pre Trump I there was a lot more intelligent discussion from both sides.


You are a prime example of someone blinded by partisanship.

What you REALLY mean is you pine for the days when Conservatives didn't hit back.

"Everything was GREAT before mean ole' Trump came along...."



Please, please go on record blaming Trump for the state of racial discord in the country and tell us how AWESOME it was when Obama was President....
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14872 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:42 pm to
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oogabooga68


You gonna link me up some liberal talking points I've made or what?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49882 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Ok thanks, taint cheeks


That's a new one.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:43 pm to
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I asked to be shown a nonbiased media site because it is literally the OP and while I assert that it doesn’t exist you keep saying we should only talk about the exact OP. I’d be happy to. Link me an unbiased news site.


I already linked some. Even if you disagree with most of them you cannot say Associated Press/Reuters are not as unbiased as it gets. Associated Press is non-for-profit, by the way.

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I never said they were radically liberal. I said they were bias. Bias exists in all forms. You keep making assumptions about my motives and then arguing against those assumed motives. That’s insane and ignorant. Stop it.


Fair, I shouldn't have assumed. But was your problem with any of the ones I listed that they are too right-leaning? Is your protest of ABC and CBS that they are too conservative?

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Sure. Are they competitive for profit “News” companies run by human beings?


They are. But they are better (and this isn't just me saying this) than MSNBC and CNN and shouldn't get lumped in with them.

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Are you a liberal? I don’t care. We haven’t discussed anything that would show me one way or the other your political leanings, but you did reveal with your last two posts that you are in fact liberal and you only engaged this topic because you wish there was more liberal content and then you assumed I’m hard right and then you assumed that I don’t like you because I’m hard right and then you started arguing against your own incorrect assumptions.


This is going around in a lot of circles, but okay. Assumptions were made on both sides and I apologize for assuming you thought I was hard left. I wasn't even assuming you were "hard right", just regular right like most of the users here.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Names called by Breesus in the past week:


Did I ever say I didn’t say insulting things?

Also, you linked 9 quotes.

1 of them is a movie quote from anchorman
2 of them are generic insults in reference to public figures
3 of them are normal banter on the OT with a posters I know IRL
2 of them are generalizations not aimed at any posters
1 of them is a sarcastic remark about vasectomies

Not a single one of them are insults to people trying to debate me, non of them are an attempt to shut down discourse, non of them are responses to liberals on the Political Talk Board.

Now who is “arguing against not the topic but a side topic and declaring it a win” as you seemed to detest so much the last 5 pages?

Keep trying though. You’re entertaining.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:46 pm to
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Is tigerdroppings the best place for nonbiased news?


hmmmm.... a more important question. Is tigerdroppings the best place to get the truth? Certainly one of the best for the truth. I am biased, so anything from me will be from an unbiased source. But I will only tell you the truth. It is the truth that matters.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:48 pm to
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That's a new one.


Sicboy and I had an entire page or two making up names on the OT relative to the term Dick nose. It was fun.

Micro tiger took that out of context and attempted to use it as a gotcha to prove a point no one was arguing that had nothing to do with the topic. The exact thing he’s been saying is a problem.

People like him always reveal their true selves if you patiently wait long enough. They hope to get you inflamed so you say something insulting and they hang on that forever. But if you just keep handing them rope with a sMile on your face they inevitably always hang themselves.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46572 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:49 pm to
There’s a pretty good breadth of sourced information, but the commentary is generally somewhere to the right of Francisco Franco
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Sicboy and I had an entire page or two making up names on the OT relative to the term Dick nose. It was fun. Micro tiger took that out of context and attempted to use it as a gotcha to prove a point no one was arguing that had nothing to do with the topic. The exact thing he’s been saying is a problem. People like him always reveal their true selves if you patiently wait long enough. They hope to get you inflamed so you say something insulting and they hang on that forever. But if you just keep handing them rope with a sMile on your face they inevitably always hang themselves.


Is this where I can call you arrogant, not as smart as you think you are, and that your post is nothing but snark...? Or will doing the same things you do be met with "and NOW he reveals his true colors! It's bad when PEOPLE LIKE HIM do it!"

Yeah, pointing out hypocrisy in your post history was stooping pretty low, I apologize for that. I still acknowledge that it's a problem including when I did it. But that's kind of where the conversation had devolved to.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:52 pm to
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as unbiased as it gets.


Does not equal nonbias which was my entire point. Glad you agree with me.

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But was your problem with any of the ones I listed that they are too right-leaning?


No. It’s that they are biased. You understand you can slant both left and right, correct? A bias site can post bias stories from both left and right. Simply carrying content with multiple biases doesn’t make you non-bias.

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But they are better (and this isn't just me saying this) than MSNBC and CNN and shouldn't get lumped in with them


I haven’t mentioned msnbc or cnn once in this entire thread. You have multiple times and then argued against your own points you shove into people’s mouthes.

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Assumptions were made on both sides

I didn’t assume anything.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14872 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Because this site is at its base level unbiased. The posters may lean right, but the site itself is nonbiased and you’re just upset there aren’t more liberal shills and promoted leftest content. See yourself out the door.


This site at base level is code. The posters that link the news from other sites are the source of information. The posters have a bias. Their preferred outlets have a bias. Consequently, this site has a bias as it relates to it being a news source.

At this point, you guys are arguing about whether there is a balance in the representation on this site/board, which there clearly is not.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:56 pm to
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Yeah, pointing out hypocrisy in your post history was stooping pretty low, I apologize for that


Is that what you think you did?

I told a poster to ignore the trolls and insults on the poliboard and he can find plenty of worthwhile discussion.

You went through my post history and quoted an anchorman quote and out of context quotes from a thread on the OT and then tried to use those as proof that people always insult leftists on this board.
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