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re: Is tigerdroppings the best place for nonbiased news?
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:31 pm to thetempleowl
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:31 pm to thetempleowl
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nonbiased
It's an echo chamber where you are more likely to enjoy the echo.
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:39 pm to Microtiger
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You and Breesus are both making this same argument, but it's not the "gotcha" you think it is.
I don't think it's a gotcha.
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It's asking if it's the best place for nonbiased news.
As I've said a few times it's impossible to answer this question because such a thing literally does not exist. I've now asked you three times to give me an example of an unbiased media site, you've yet to respond to me...because... You're not engaging the topic. You're just arguing in the comments.
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The responses to my posts are literally proving my point,
What, exactly, is your point?
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This unfortunately reflects a really annoying trend here, which is instead of engaging with the topic switching to a kind of related thing and arguing against that instead, then calling it a win.
I tried multiple times to enage with the topic. There is no such thing as nonbiased news, therfore this is not an unbiased news site, however, you can have a site that allowed all opinions without a moderator or community actively silencing and banning certain content and on that grounds, yes, this site is the best.
This site also breaks most local and much national news unbelievably fast and with multiple sources.
But according to you, every response in this thread should simply be: no. And no other response or discussion?
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:52 pm to Breesus
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But according to you, every response in this thread should simply be: no. And no other response or discussion?
Is that how you interpreted his post? Because in his rather wordy post he listed a number of positive qualities about this site. I would call that entertaining "other response or discussion."
You've acknowledge this site isn't unbiased. He holds that opinion. You've listed positive qualities about this site. So did he.
No need to manufacture a difference of opinion for the sake of...well, I don't even know what your objective is here.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:53 pm to nematocyte
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I made the huge mistake of spending a couple of minutes glancing at your post history thinking I might actually be wrong, and I now have fricking cancer. So, thanks for that, I'm defeated, you win... princess.
Sorry for your cancer... here is to hoping it is a slow and painful death for you...
you seem to be one of these stalker fricks that take internet message boards way to serious... kinda creepy...
BTW, what kind of cancer? I am betting ovarian...
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:59 pm to thetempleowl
PoliBoard is what drudge used to be.
The links come from all over.
Actual analysis of policy/politics is usually from a right perspective. Which is certainly my world view. Because we’re anonymous we can let our freak flag fly, and say what we really think.
I actually would love to see more left wing analysis on here. The left wingers that post tend to provide (1) Orange Man Bad; (2) both sides do it; and (3) snarky comments as “analysis.”
I truly want to understand why and how the Left world view makes sense or solves problems. That to me constitutes a conversation.
The links come from all over.
Actual analysis of policy/politics is usually from a right perspective. Which is certainly my world view. Because we’re anonymous we can let our freak flag fly, and say what we really think.
I actually would love to see more left wing analysis on here. The left wingers that post tend to provide (1) Orange Man Bad; (2) both sides do it; and (3) snarky comments as “analysis.”
I truly want to understand why and how the Left world view makes sense or solves problems. That to me constitutes a conversation.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:02 pm to Jorts R Us
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Is that how you interpreted his post? B
How else should I interpret this?:
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This unfortunately reflects a really annoying trend here, which is instead of engaging with the topic switching to a kind of related thing and arguing against that instead, then calling it a win.
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don't even know what your objective is here.
Actively engaging people in peaceful discussion to pass the time. Plus it gets me hard in my pants.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:04 pm to Breesus
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I've now asked you three times to give me an example of an unbiased media site, you've yet to respond to me...because... You're not engaging the topic. You're just arguing in the comments.
I still think it's off topic, yeah. Responding to criticism by plugging ears and saying "well, show me proof that [the liberals/the media/the other side] don't do the same thing!" is waaaay rampant here so excuse me if I assume that's what's going on. You literally responded to me saying a bunch of stuff but focused on responding to "the topic is flawed, this site isn't nonbiased", with "Show me a site that ISN'T biased! There's no RULES against other opinions here!"
Anyway, so that I'm not just arguing in the comments here's about the most unbiased you can get for media sites, in order from most to least reliable. If you disagree, you have to understand that "unbiased" is not the same as "the same as my positions".
Keep in mind this EXCLUDES OPINION AND EDITORIAL pieces.
AP Reuters
ABC News
Bloomberg
CBS News
The Economist
Business Insider
Forbes
Let's take Reuters for example, which gets called liberal by conservatives and conservative by liberals, which tells me it's doing something right. It currently has on the front page (1) an article about hydroxychloroquine trials being rolled out instead of ignoring it and (2) an article about concerns over vaccine safety, which are two I can pick out as being unlikely to show up on heavily left-skewing sites.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:04 pm to Wednesday
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I actually would love to see more left wing analysis on here. The left wingers that post tend to provide (1) Orange Man Bad; (2) both sides do it; and (3) snarky comments as “analysis.”
In fairness, if a leftwinger writes a thoughtful response he'll immediately get 30 downvotes and will be called a cuck who should DIAF
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:05 pm to Pettifogger
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In fairness, if a leftwinger writes a thoughtful response he'll immediately get 30 downvotes and will be called a cuck who should DIAF
So?
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:09 pm to loogaroo
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both extremes get called out.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:10 pm to Breesus
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So?
...what do you mean, "So?" That liberal ideas are generally unwelcome if not unpopular here is the entire point of this discussion, dude.
Besides denying outright and deflecting, the "okay, so what?" response is another useless, empty piece of discourse.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:10 pm to Breesus
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There is no such thing as nonbiased news
That is completely false. News should be reported without bias. Here is what happened, just the facts, nothing else. News isn't a round table with 5 people giving their opinion on what happened.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:12 pm to whocares1
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That is completely false. News should be reported without bias. Here is what happened, just the facts, nothing else. News isn't a round table with 5 people giving their opinion on what happened.
The distinction between pure news and news discussion is majorly lost on a lot of folks. If you're watching daytime cable news with talking heads you are not getting news, you're getting a performance based on news. It's not at all unlike Alex Jones on the right on John Oliver on the left, but for some reason people understand that those are opinions for opinion's sake.
Unfortunately news media getting almost all of its profit from ads on free websites after the death of print has caused almost all news to be a performance of some kind, no matter what format it's in. Anger and outrage fuel clicks and eyes which means more ad money. Profit and unbiased presenting do not mix well together. Realize that you are being led to anger on purpose no matter which side it's pulling from.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:13 pm to Pettifogger
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In fairness, if a leftwinger writes a thoughtful response he'll immediately get 30 downvotes and will be called a cuck who should DIAF
I have rarely if ever received a thoughtful response. Exceptions have been on occasion, Toddy. And sometimes AggieHank who is confused & thinks he’s a libertarian.
Otherwise, to be fair, I’ve seen nothing but snark from the likes of you Petifogger.
Maybe give peace a chance.
Who GAF about a downvote? I have a serial downvoter, and several unpopular opinions.
The downvote I take as a term of “I Agree” or “don’t agree.” It isn’t offensive if someone disagrees with my POV.
Why not try to explain why I’m wrong? I think leftism is no way to run a Government and incompatible with our constitutional republic - but Id love to hear why I’m wrong. I’m in fact desperate to understand.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:16 pm to Microtiger
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Responding to criticism by plugging ears and saying "well, show me proof that [the liberals/the media/the other side] don't do the same thing!" is waaaay rampant here
I never do that and yet you’ve accused me of it twice.
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You literally responded to me saying a bunch of stuff but focused on responding to "the topic is flawed, this site isn't nonbiased", with "Show me a site that ISN'T biased! There's no RULES against other opinions here!"
Correct. You said we should only directly respond to the OP and never discuss related topics. Solely respond directly to the assertion in the OP. Because I believe the OP is inherently impossible, I then chose to engage with the closest possible meaning I interpreted from the OP, which is that this site is the least biased from a moderator and censor stand point.
You also lobbed a bunch of accusations and unfounded opinions about the community here and the have gotten upset every time I’ve responded to or attempted to debate with you those opinions you seem to hold as fact.
You are also the one who brought up other sites such as Reddit. Not me.
You honestly believe ABC and CBS news are two of the top 5 most noNbiased media sites on the planet?
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f you disagree, you have to understand that "unbiased" is not the same as "the same as my positions".
So if I disagree it’s not because you might be wrong but because I have some fundamental misunderstanding that prevents me from seeing things clearly?
You have an arrogance problem. And you’re not as smart as you think you are.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:17 pm to LSUconvert
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The left wingers that post tend to provide (1) Orange Man Bad; (2) both sides do it; and (3) snarky comments as “analysis.”
“Both sides do it” is the most asinine, intellectually lazy non response to any political argument. It literally makes me stop listening to whoever says it. It proves that whoever said it is scared to take a fricking position. Be anything- but to quote Clay Travis #DBAP
Most chickenshit argument Ever.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:18 pm to Microtiger
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That liberal ideas are generally unwelcome if not unpopular here is the entire point of this discussion, dude.
I thought the entire point of the discussion was just nonbias news sites? Now it’s where do liberals feel comfortable without counter-arguments?
Thank you for exposing what you’re really trying to get at.
Unpopular and unwelcome are not at all the same thing.
Liberal ideas are more than welcome here and are posted daily and are done so without censorship or manufactured hiding of posts or topics. As are conservatives views. Because this site is at its base level unbiased. The posters may lean right, but the site itself is nonbiased and you’re just upset there aren’t more liberal shills and promoted leftest content. See yourself out the door.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:19 pm to Wednesday
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I actually would love to see more left wing analysis on here. The left wingers that post tend to provide (1) Orange Man Bad; (2) both sides do it; and (3) snarky comments as “analysis.”
Pre Trump I there was a lot more intelligent discussion from both sides. Since 2016 this board has really gone down hill.
The few times I’ve tried to engage in thoughtful conversation Within two replies I’m attacked as a chuck or soy boy. I’m too old for name calling and insults.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:19 pm to Codythetiger
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I usually find out stories here before most major news orgs break them.
Its takes longer to slant news than to spread it.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:21 pm to Pettifogger
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In fairness, if a leftwinger writes a thoughtful response he'll immediately get 30 downvotes and will be called a cuck who should DIAF
And yet his commentary remains uncensored, and thankfully, downvoted don’t push comments down a queue allowing the mob to censor.
That’s why this place is great.
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