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re: What work from home has ruined?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:18 pm to BabyTac
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:18 pm to BabyTac
For a long time i absolutely hated most everyone I worked with. They were all stuck up assholes. When covid came and we were stuck at home, I loved it. But a year after covid i was laid off and did not miss all those crappy people or the snooty work environment.
New Job, new people. Work with a bunch of baws at a utility company, and I love the work environment, and the people here. Plus they stopped all the hybrid work shite.
New Job, new people. Work with a bunch of baws at a utility company, and I love the work environment, and the people here. Plus they stopped all the hybrid work shite.
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:23 pm to Kracka
I’ve been working from home since 2015 and have mixed feelings about it. I miss the face to face interaction the most. It’s nice to make your own schedule and not be bothered by outside distractions though.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:24 pm to BabyTac
Dawg...
Work from home is 100x better than working from the office.
Work from home is 100x better than working from the office.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:26 pm to BabyTac
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Most look at this as a perk, but it is ruining society and structure.
False
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Nobody has work relationships anymore. When I say relationships, I mean colleagues as you progress through the grind you become ‘friends’ with.
I work to make money, not make friends. I have other friends and family I’d rather spend my time with.
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Jobs you stayed at because you liked the people you worked with and it paid off.
Didn’t like many of the people at work prior to Covid. It’s a perk not having to physically sit next to slackers while I bust arse.
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‘Lunch with the boys’ is dead. No more killing time with the boys while talking about the new hot secretary over lunch.
I now get to use my lunch break for a workout to prioritize my health. frick eating greasy food with coworkers.
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Work/social events. Ping pong tourneys, trivia, potlucks.
Once again, I work to make money. Not to make friends.
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Lovebirds in the office. Most marriages used to be between people who met at work.
I don’t know a single married couple who met at work even prior to Covid. The only workplace romances I heard of were affairs that quickly flamed out.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:28 pm to BabyTac
Ruined? Hell, I wish my office would go back to it. I don’t enjoy traffic or commutes. I like being near my own kitchen and bathroom.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 5:26 pm to BabyTac
WFH can help solve the family issues we see today with both parents working outside of the home. Also, WFH allows for mobility to other areas. It can offer price relief in high demand areas, and create demand in pre-industrial areas that have fallen off a cliff. But hey, if your work is your life, feel free to work every day.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:27 pm to Gee Grenouille
Did almost 30 years working at the office, for the last several years I am WFH. I actually agree with the OP that the young bucks entering the workforce should do it in an office environment. All those experiences add up and are a good thing. But for me, been there done that. I'm good with WFH.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:49 pm to BabyTac
First of all, it sounds like you like to frick around A LOT at work. 
Here’s my best response I can come up with. And understand this is coming from someone who truly loves his profession….
72 Hours
72 hours after your funeral is when an employer typically posts your job as open. Sure, you’ll have some close friends if you’ve been there for a while but they’ll always be just coworkers. You will never be more important to them than their family and close circle of friends.
My advice, unless you’re a perpetual bachelor, pass up the drinks after work and go home to your family.
Skip the weekend golf with your dept boys and take your kid to a park or a ballgame, ride bikes, build something.
We spend entirely too much time with other people and not our own family. It’s actually really depressing when you start doing the math.
Here’s my best response I can come up with. And understand this is coming from someone who truly loves his profession….
72 Hours
72 hours after your funeral is when an employer typically posts your job as open. Sure, you’ll have some close friends if you’ve been there for a while but they’ll always be just coworkers. You will never be more important to them than their family and close circle of friends.
My advice, unless you’re a perpetual bachelor, pass up the drinks after work and go home to your family.
Skip the weekend golf with your dept boys and take your kid to a park or a ballgame, ride bikes, build something.
We spend entirely too much time with other people and not our own family. It’s actually really depressing when you start doing the math.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:52 pm to TheDeathValley
I've worked from home for almost 20 years when I wasn't at a client site (which is over 1,600 days). I miss wanting to bang the seniors dressed like they were trying to bang partners, but would probably settle for a manager or director like me.
Even when I started, working from home got me paying attention to work 0730-1700. Making me get on the train, iron business casual, etc., every day just sunk 3 of those hours into getting to the office where there was no one on my project present, etc.
One thing I do miss from IT helpdesk work in person (prior to the above), though, is that I can't personally intimidate people the same way. I don't mean intimidate like an a-hole, but people would say things and demand things differently when me at my fittest was in their cube asking what the actual problem was, versus exchanging emails and phone calls, etc. I never could have pushed back in the same way against certain clients that were being unreasonable unless I was in the room while they were trying to dump shite on me or my team.
I work with a client now in Houston, and three people on the team (of 10-ish) meet up once a month. And guess what, I'll be on conference calls with other people for half the day. The point is...? We all go to the shitty cafe in the office building and talk about the weather?
Even when I started, working from home got me paying attention to work 0730-1700. Making me get on the train, iron business casual, etc., every day just sunk 3 of those hours into getting to the office where there was no one on my project present, etc.
One thing I do miss from IT helpdesk work in person (prior to the above), though, is that I can't personally intimidate people the same way. I don't mean intimidate like an a-hole, but people would say things and demand things differently when me at my fittest was in their cube asking what the actual problem was, versus exchanging emails and phone calls, etc. I never could have pushed back in the same way against certain clients that were being unreasonable unless I was in the room while they were trying to dump shite on me or my team.
I work with a client now in Houston, and three people on the team (of 10-ish) meet up once a month. And guess what, I'll be on conference calls with other people for half the day. The point is...? We all go to the shitty cafe in the office building and talk about the weather?
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:53 pm to BabyTac
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Most marriages used to be between people who met at work
That’s just not true at all.
More divorces, however, were caused by people who met at work.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:56 pm to BabyTac
How stupid. This entire post seems focused on people that are lame anyway. Those people are going to be lame regardless of WFH, hybrid or asses in seats.
You seem to be projecting, meaning you are lame.
You seem to be projecting, meaning you are lame.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:01 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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That’s just not true at all.
Most marriages happen to be between people that spend a lot of time around each other (Uni, work.) I'm not disputing that working around women that are trying to impress everyone around them leads to cheating at work.
Not everyone went to A&M and got engaged in their sophomore year.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:01 pm to BabyTac
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How many teams have won championships by practicing virtually and watching game film from home and just showing up for the game?
Good grief what a horribly stupid comparison
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:05 pm to Mstate
I often jump all over these WFH threads but I have to admit, my biggest gripe was the long commute, not necessarily being the office per se, although the downtown CBD high rise office scene sucks too. An office in a more suburb or small building type setting wouldn’t be bad. But nothing beats the pros of wfh, although cabin fever is a thing and good habits and routine are prime.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:33 pm to BabyTac
Work from home has made life a lot harder for Jodys across the country.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:38 pm to Havoc
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biggest gripe was the long commute,
HP did a study before COVID that the biggest predictor of if an employee was going to quit was whether their commute was over 40 minutes each way.
Yet, HPE insisted I needed to commute 45 minutes each way, each day, to their empty (and I mean, the parking garage was 10% or under full) Spring campus to work with two people, and hold conference calls with people in other places as a product manager.
Whole Foods did the same thing, when I insisted I could get to their downtown location in Austin from West Houston faster than I could than if I lived in Round Rock or San Marcos. I offered to drive up multiple times a week, "you need to relocate," was the answer, and this was probably 2021.
I hated the office commute shite, especially in Houston, as I was dropping close to $20 a day on parking to waste time going into an office downtown where nobody was there. Boss in SF. Hold a lunch and learn for 30 people, and only the office managing partner shows up? Yeah, take the cookies home to your kids.
Cabin fever probably just accelerated divorces that were going to happen anyway.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:16 am to BabyTac
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How many teams have won championships by practicing virtually and watching game film from home and just showing up for the game?
No offense bro, but that's a stupid fricking argument.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:33 am to BabyTac
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Most marriages used to be between people who met at work
This has literally never been true.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:35 am to kywildcatfanone
I get more done working at home.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:39 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:But no one is actually socializing anymore.
Plenty of places to socialize.
For US adults, face to face socializing is down ~30%, and it is down nearly 59% for teens.
The socialization creates massive social cohesion issues in societies.
It is, IMO, one of the driving factors behind the extreme radicalization we are seeing.
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