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re: Daniel Perry - Convicted of Murder for Killing Protestor - Update - Pardoned by Abbott
Posted on 4/8/23 at 8:34 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Posted on 4/8/23 at 8:34 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
There were some kind of withholding exculpatory evidence issues. The DA wanted a kill and was willing to cheat to get it.
Posted on 4/8/23 at 8:40 pm to TheSadvocate
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UPDATE - TX Gov tweets that he will pardon this man
Good. frick Travis county. SGT Perry never stood a chance in that liberal cesspool.
Posted on 4/8/23 at 9:28 pm to Hangit
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There were some kind of withholding exculpatory evidence issues. The DA wanted a kill and was willing to cheat to get it.
It would not have to be much. DA made case for reasonable doubt before the defense even called in their own witnesses.
Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:35 pm to SUB
Wait he was found guilty of what? Defending himself when his car was getting kicked in by Amon and someone approached his windows with a AR? Like yeah he is guilty of killing the guys but it should be self defense right?
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:35 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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what the frick was the driver supposed to do?
They want you to either be on their side or die.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 12:29 am to TheSadvocate
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UPDATE - TX Gov tweets that he will pardon this man
Thank God
Posted on 4/9/23 at 12:34 am to USMCguy121
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At this point libs are handing out guilty verdicts out of pure spite. They don't give a frick about justice.
They think they are fighting “the man” but they are ignorant of the fact that they are pawns for “the man”.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:56 am to TheSadvocate
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UPDATE - TX Gov tweets that he will pardon this man
It’s the right decision but I wish it could be resolved in the courts. Certain groups of people will be furious of course.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 10:00 am to TheSadvocate
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UPDATE - TX Gov tweets that he will pardon this man
I don’t hate Abbott (don’t love him either. He makes stands late after others do and runs his policy through focus groups) but I’m surprised at him having the balls to do it.
Good for him. Wish the courts hadn’t even brought this to a jury like Rittenhouse.
This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/9/23 at 11:20 am to SUB
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It’s the right decision but I wish it could be resolved in the courts. Certain groups of people will be furious of course.
Good, frick 'em. Maybe armed "protesters" will stop shutting down streets and surrounding cars.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 6:12 pm to SUB
DA withheld 100+ pages of evidence straight from the lead detective. Because of course he did. Would be a shame if he gets the Daniel Foster treatment.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:50 pm to SUB
Article
An alternate juror that was in the room for deliberations gave an interview. Here's what she said:
I think she meant that the gun was pointed down? So it seems like they believe Foster was not in a threatening position (I disagree) and that Perry had planned to provoke the crowd so that he could shoot someone, thus negating his claim of self-defense. I think the position of the gun did not matter so much to the jury, and it was his social media posts that swayed them to a guilty verdict.
If Perry's shots had missed, and Garrett Foster had shot Daniel Perry after, would Foster have been able to claim self defense? Or would his prior remarks from an interview earlier that day have been used to prove that he was out there trying to intimidate other people with his gun, thus negating a claim for self defense?
Also, if you take over a street illegally and a car tries to drive on it toward a crowd, are you allowed to claim self defense and shoot the person driving the car? Or is that not allowable because you created the dangerous situation by illegally taking over a street?
An alternate juror that was in the room for deliberations gave an interview. Here's what she said:
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Dowell said her confidence in the verdict was based in part on testimony that Foster’s gun was pointing up — close to his ear — moments before the shooting and that Foster was at least a foot away from Perry’s car.
She said prosecutors also presented text messages between Perry and a friend, exchanged prior to the shooting, discussing other cases in which protesters had been shot and whether it amounted to self-defense.
I think she meant that the gun was pointed down? So it seems like they believe Foster was not in a threatening position (I disagree) and that Perry had planned to provoke the crowd so that he could shoot someone, thus negating his claim of self-defense. I think the position of the gun did not matter so much to the jury, and it was his social media posts that swayed them to a guilty verdict.
If Perry's shots had missed, and Garrett Foster had shot Daniel Perry after, would Foster have been able to claim self defense? Or would his prior remarks from an interview earlier that day have been used to prove that he was out there trying to intimidate other people with his gun, thus negating a claim for self defense?
Also, if you take over a street illegally and a car tries to drive on it toward a crowd, are you allowed to claim self defense and shoot the person driving the car? Or is that not allowable because you created the dangerous situation by illegally taking over a street?
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:50 pm to SUB
State of local Austin leadership - The state DPS had to begin patrolling in Austin and also assisting Austin Police.
In 3 weeks
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/dps-in-austin-a-look-at-arrest-reports-how-to-file-complaint/
But of course
In 3 weeks
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DPS started assisting the Austin Police Department last month after a request from Gov. Greg Abbott in late March, through the creation of the Austin Violent Crimes Task Force, or AVCTF. According to DPS, the AVCTF is a data-driven violent crime suppression task force composed of troopers, special agents and intelligence-level policing.
Since the launch of the AVCTF on March 30 through April 10, DPS personnel have conducted over 5,202 traffic stops and 38 crash investigations, the agency said.
During that time, the task force has also made 117 felony and 81 misdemeanor arrests, recovered 17 stolen vehicles and seized 0.59 pounds of cocaine, 0.09 pounds of heroin, more than 289 pounds of methamphetamine and 30 firearms.
DPS said it has also provided 757 APD assists.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/dps-in-austin-a-look-at-arrest-reports-how-to-file-complaint/
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Nearly three weeks into the Texas Department of Public Safety’s increased patrols in Austin, Austin Police said the initiative is helping with violent crime,
But of course
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some community members have expressed concerns about the presence of troopers in certain neighborhoods.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:58 pm to SUB
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“I just thought it was an egregious overreach of power,” Dowell said. “It’s undermining due process. It’s undermining democracy. I was upset, honestly.”
Well if she was honestly upset it must really have been egregious…
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Dowell, who said she has not previously supported the three-term governor politically,
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She said prosecutors also presented text messages between Perry and a friend, exchanged prior to the shooting, discussing other cases in which protesters had been shot and whether it amounted to self-defense.
Was this conversation a few weeks before this happening about a car hitting a protestor in Seattle and whether self defense could be or should be claimed?
Those kind of discussions were happening across the country with locals in bigger cities talking mostly peaceful protests and not doing enough or much of anything.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 5:02 pm to SUB
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Foster was at least a foot away from Perry’s car.
Good thing the range of an AR is only eight inches.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 5:24 pm to dallastigers
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Was this conversation a few weeks before this happening about a car hitting a protestor in Seattle and whether self defense could be or should be claimed?
She’s probably referring to these messages he sent to friends.
LINK
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"I might go to Dallas to shoot looters,"
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Prosecutors presented a Facebook Messenger chat between Perry and a friend, Michael Holcomb, which occurred two weeks before he shot Foster. In it, Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense. Holcomb, who was called to the stand Wednesday afternoon, seemed to try to talk Perry down. "Aren't you a CDL holder too?" he asked, referring to the men's licenses to carry concealed handguns. "We went through the same training ... Shooting after creating an event where you have to shoot, is not a good shoot."
I wish I could find a list of all the messages he sent. Especially the full conversation on that last one. I have never seen them.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 6:47 pm to SUB
To me the messages don't even factor in. A criminal who was illegally blocking a public roadway and acting aggressively along with accomplices raised "an assault rifle" and pointed it in the guy's general direction. Not only that, there were other armed people in that group of criminals who could have very well brandished their firearms at some point during that hectic exchange. A witness even said the dead criminal had been warned about how he was carrying his "assault rifle", yet he didn't change how he was carrying while he was engaged in criminal activity.
What it boils down to is a group of armed criminals attempted to violently assault and/or kill a random driver on a public roadway. I don't give a shite what that driver may have said in conversation prior to that event.
What it boils down to is a group of armed criminals attempted to violently assault and/or kill a random driver on a public roadway. I don't give a shite what that driver may have said in conversation prior to that event.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:16 pm to 3nOut
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I don’t hate Abbott (don’t love him either. He makes stands late after others do and runs his policy through focus groups) but I’m surprised at him having the balls to do it.
Same here. But it still has to be recommended by the pardon board so we’ll see what actually happens.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:18 pm to SUB
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Also, if you take over a street illegally and a car tries to drive on it toward a crowd, are you allowed to claim self defense and shoot the person driving the car?
We’ve learned that in blue cities it is perfectly legal for a mob of angry retarded people to block roads. Anyone who disturbs the mob is subject to persecution.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:28 pm to LegendInMyMind
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To me the messages don't even factor in.
I understand why a juror would be interested in the texts bc they point to Perry’s frame of mind.
But basically, we have a mob of angry retards blocking a road and then converging on Perry’s car as he dares to drive on said road. One such angry retard has an AK. How would anyone not feel threatened? Is he supposed to wait for the AK guy to fire the first shot? He had a revolver. Revolver vs AK…
It’s amazing to see leftists suddenly ok with open carry of a scary assault rifle. Suddenly an angry guy in an angry mob carrying a scary black assault weapon is nothing to worry about.
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