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Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:03 am to Robin Masters
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you my experience is that there will be a tragic unforeseen consequence to this type of medicine.
Like what?
I don’t know how many times it has been said in this thread that GLP-1s have been studied and tested since the 70/80s. Thats 40+ years. What is going to come up that the science hasn’t poked, prodded, and tested yet?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:05 am to ronricks
quote:ok, so do you support its use to reduce pedophelia?
Chemical castration exists.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:06 am to LSUGrrrl
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So, with that agreed, you say your aren’t arguing against these meds. Sweet. Then there’s nothing else to say bc we all obviously agree with each other
Many people have no issue with the meds, they have an issue with people acting as if every single person who is obese is obese because of some sort of hormonal issue or something else out of their control, rather than taking any sort of personal responsibility for their actions. That's it, take the meds, who cares?
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:07 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:08 am to WDE24
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ok, so do you support its use to reduce pedophelia?
It will work just as well as killing them will. You can do it with or without it. Its not necessary.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:09 am to Robin Masters
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Look nothing I say or do is going to change the trajectory of this drug so not sure why you care what I think anyway. I’m telling you my experience is that there will be a tragic unforeseen consequence to this type of medicine. Call me a Luddite all you want.
Only you have called yourself a Luddite. I've treated you respectfully and conceded points where we agree.
You have an opinion based on past experience, primarily Covid, of pharmaceuticals being total shitbags. I think everybody here also agrees with that. Others here are presenting you with data points and your response has basically to rage against the character flaws of obese people and mock them, and call for their public humiliation, which has nothing to do with the efficacy of GLP1s. Your entire POV in this thread has really been about how much you dislike fatties and the myriad of reasons why they suck. Which is certainly your right but kind of sidetracks any adult conversation we were having about GLP1s.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:10 am to ronricks
So you would not support a safe and effective peptide that stops pedophilia? That’s really disturbing. I wonder why you don’t want to stop pedophilia…
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:11 am to Epic Cajun
so you know for a fact people are not born GLP-1 or GIP deficient? can you please post that study?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:12 am to ronricks
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are you some type of homosexual pervert or bi-curious?
Pro tip.If it is that you seek, head over to the Aggie Board.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:13 am to lsu777
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so you know for a fact people are not born GLP-1 or GIP deficient? can you please post that study?
No, you're right. Everyone who is obese is obese because of something out of their control.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:14 am to WDE24
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So you would not support a safe and effective peptide that stops pedophilia?
We already have this. It is called chemical castration. You can also kill them. Either works. Just like with the topic of this thread you can lose weight with or without it. Not sure what is so hard to understand about this?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:15 am to Lsupimp
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Only you have called yourself a Luddite. I've treated you respectfully and conceded points where we agree.
You have been extremely respectful to me which I appreciate but to other posters you’ve mocked me which is fine I’m a big boy but don’t try and take the high road.
You and numerous other posters think a pill will cure all modern vices without consequences and I find that to be rather naive.
I hope I’m wrong.
quote:
Your entire POV in this thread has really been about how much you dislike fatties and the myriad of reasons why they suck
You might be confusing me with someone else. I’ve said at least three times I sympathize with the obese.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:20 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:16 am to BawtHouse
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It’s due to internalization and feeling a certain way about themselves and inadequacies. Then they lash out a spit venom. Very standard projection.
The OT in a nutshell (and many ppl in general)
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:16 am to ronricks
quote:And you support whatever works to stop pedophilia, right?
Either works.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:18 am to Epic Cajun
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No, you're right. Everyone who is obese is obese because of something out of their control.
so strawman?
did i say that.
if you want to read back through pages, i posted the studies on the actual cellular mechanisms that cause the rise in sDPP-4 in adipose tissue which leads to the suppression of GLP-1 and GIp
i never said that many of the obese are lazy and ae undisciplined, thats a fact and why we see usually the lower one is on the social economic scale, the higher the chance one is to be obese
but to act like there are not hormonal imbalances in play is laughable
and i dont take nor need the medicine but i also know bodybuilders in the middle of a cut that use it. so its not like everyone using it is obese or lacks discipline.
and frankly why so many people care how others lose body fat is flabbergasting to me. I could literally give two fricks on how someone does it.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:19 am to WDE24
quote:
And you support whatever works to stop pedophilia, right?
Both ways work. Its not up to me to decide or dictate which one is used. You can use either.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:21 am to lsu777
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so strawman?
I was responding to your strawman
My comment is that people are tired of hearing that every single obese person is obese due to something out of their control, and then you asked me to show you a study where zero people are born with a hormone issue. Is that not a strawman?
Again, I don't care if people take the meds.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:23 am to Epic Cajun
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No, you're right. Everyone who is obese is obese because of something out of their control.
Ok Epic. You and others have established your anti-chubbies bona fides. Let's agree that ALL obese people are lacking in the virtues that fit people naturally embody .I mean it wasn't fatties that stormed the beaches of Normandy or landed on the moon .Now what?
Shall we help them lose weight or mock them? What's the actual value of the judgement here? Is this huge issue (no pun intended) about being attached to our antipathy towards the lesser habits of fatties or is it about fixing the whole obesity shitshow?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:23 am to lsu777
The vast majority - I'd go as far as saying the extreme majority of people who are obese is because of their own lifestyle choices. It's not 'hereditary' or a 'condition' or some other nonsense. It is because they willingly choose to be that way and can't be bothered with fixing it. There are extreme outliers but they are very very rare.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:27 am to Lsupimp
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Ok Epic. You and others have established your anti-chubbies bona fides. Let's agree that ALL obese people are lacking in the virtues that fit people naturally embody .I mean it wasn't fatties that stormed the beaches of Normandy or landed on the moon .Now what?
Shall we help them lose weight or mock them? What's the actual value of the judgement here? Is this huge issue (no pun intended) about being attached to our antipathy towards the lesser habits of fatties or is it about fixing the whole obesity shitshow?
Take the medicine, lose the weight. I don't care at all.
I'm just tired of the lack of personal responsibility that people have in today's society. Again, I don't care if people take the medicine to lose weight.
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