re: 3 US governors ask Turks and Caicos to release Americans detained over ammo

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Is one of the options not bringing shite into another country that isn't legal there?

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Years ago, my cousin got stopped leaving Jamaica with a round in his suitcase that he had taken hunting previously. Did not realize he had the round. The Jamaican authorities took him aside and asked him some questions, confiscated the round with a warning and let him go on his way. It made a huge impression on him to be more careful.

This is the appropriate response from authorities for this situation.

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Same result in Mexico too, right?

It’s a stupid law but there are prolly lots of countries like this.

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Hit or miss in Mexico but not worth the risk. I drove into Juarez about 8 years ago to catch a flight to Ixtapa (domestic flight was less than 20% of what the same flight from El Paso would have been). I drove my old Tahoe hunting wagon and did a sweep but missed a full box of dove loads in behind the dog kennel. I stopped on the way north to do a final pass and found it..pretty surreal. I tossed them in a dumpster behind a motel and as soon as I stopped the damned rent a cop came almost at a trot to find out what I was doing....I tossed them and left, waving at the security guard as I drove past him. He must have not seen me toss them because he was headed back into the lobby as I drove away. Crossed the border without a hitch. I knew other people who did almost the same thing except doing another sweep on the way north and they were detained and paid the typical Mexico fine which is whatever cash you can lay your hands on pretty quick. There are people arrested regularly though. Most of the time when you are coming back they do not bother to check but they do occasionally. It is probably different now, this has been 8 years or so ago when I was crossing pretty regularly....

I’m fine with getting punished for breaking the law. A fine or even a night in jail. A week in jail would be cruel and unusual punishment.

A month in jail and I’m never visiting your country. 12 years? It’s no different than a death sentence.

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Those guys are "ours" and T&C is "them." It's perfectly reasonable and sound to favor us over them even if we acknowledge these guys screwed up in some limited fashion.

Throwing power and weight around is the natural and historic condition of negotiations and we have leverage over T&C. Perfectly fine to use it here, IMO.

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Completely agree.

I can't wrap my head around the straight up blind notion that "well they have rules". By that measure T&C could have them publicly executed and people would be fine with it "because rules".

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Really interesting seeing some of the same folks who said we should "let Greiner rot" in this thread begging for this guy to be released

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yup

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You going for 1 night including airfare?

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Yeah, we're a family of four, and I don't think $3,000 even covered our food costs for a week.

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Not to mention alcohol.

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that was probably our biggest expense

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A couple guys in this thread have even said the quiet part out loud, which is that they have a double standard b/c they dont like how she looks and who she sleeps with… As much as we joke around here about whether teachers are ‘guilty’ or ‘not guilty’ based on their looks- in the real world, that’s not how laws work .

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his place is heavily weighted with "rules are for thee" folks

No, it’s more because of her being so vocally anti-American and talking about how oppressive the US is and then she got to experience real oppression and posters were saying that it served her right. It had nothing to do with her appearance or sexual preference.