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Honey Badger is a fan of coach Allen

Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:42 am
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:42 am
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Dennis Allen took over as the head coach of the New Orleans Saints in 2022 after Sean Payton decided to step away from coaching. While he hasn't been the most popular coach during his tenure, Saints safety Tyrann Mathieu recently spoke up on behalf of his coach.

Mathieu sounded off on X, noting that Allen is one of the best coaches he's been around. Demario Davis also responded to the slander with the shouting emojis, signaling that he agrees with his teammate.



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Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166529 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:48 am to
DA's demeanor gets him a bad reputation from fans but it can be a demeanor that his players can often appreciate. We need an alpha on the offensive side of the ball and then i really do think Dennis Allen can have success in this league.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24743 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:06 am to
Allen is a nice guy, so yes I can see players liking him. I like him as a person. That's different than commanding a room though. I think they like but don't respect him as a coach. If they did then they wouldn't call their own plays at the LOS to spite his decisions.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166529 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:11 am to
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they wouldn't call their own plays


you mean the buffoon that is jameis.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17183 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:13 am to
So is Sean Payton
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32999 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:19 am to
It was a team decision!


In all honesty, I don’t think DA connects with the players or holds them accountable like CSP. Even Kamara talked about how some players weren’t putting in the work last year. Players shouldn’t have to do that, the coach should handle that.

Couple that with DA’s inability to stand up to alpha personalities like MT13, CJGJ and Latt and that’s a problem.

Allen is a great coordinator. Great! But he’s a bad head coach. Bad!
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10484 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:26 am to
Players liking a coach doesn't make the coach actually a good coach. It means they are happy with him and clearly from how they play throughout the last couple of years, aren't that driven to win. They don't seem to take the underperformances personally.

Most of these guys are there and care about getting their check, not winning championships, so forgive many of us if we don't care if the players like the coach or not.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24743 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:31 am to
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Allen is a great coordinator. Great! But he’s a bad head coach. Bad!



This is the truth. A HC's job is completely different from that of a coordinator and that of a position coach. He is the manager, organizer of the team, and he is the manager of player personalities. Allen has proven he is great at game planning and defensive strategy; however, he has also proven he can't run a full team and manage all the nuances involved in being a HC. He's a super nice, upstanding guy, and he's a great coordinator; he's also a bad HC.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17514 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:31 am to
It seems Lattimore is the only player on the defensive side that has ever had an issue with DA ... now I think if you polled the offense, you would get a completely different vibe
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64501 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:40 am to
Pretty much.
I've got no problem with DA blowing up in a good way and team playing well and winning
division. Nor do I have a problem if we blow up in a bad way cause he's gone. What I worry about is a up and down year again and the FO sticking again with DA.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24743 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:40 am to
quote:


It seems Lattimore is the only player on the defensive side that has ever had an issue with DA ... now I think if you polled the offense, you would get a completely different vibe



This is a really good point
Posted by AD23
Lab
Member since Jun 2012
634 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:44 am to
ok just because you like him as a person and a defensive coach doesnt mean he is a good head coach or fit to lead a team
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33769 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:45 am to
while the Saints haven't been consistent, I don't think the players have quit on DA.

First of all, you have to put good tape out there year after year to keep a job or get one somewhere else.

When the Chargers got rolled up by the raiders last year on Thursday night football, 63-21 that was a sign of a team that quit on the coach.

The Lions game sure got off to the kind of start where you thought maybe the players had quit on DA but the final in that one only ended up being 33-28. After a 21-0 first quarter and trailing 24-7 at the half.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1956 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:01 am to
DA should have hired ex HCs on both sides of ball. This is his last shot as HC. He needs to swing for the fences. It's too late, he will be replaced in January.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82300 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:57 am to
The Saints have played hard through week 18 in both seasons under CDA. Wasn't always the case with Payton
Posted by sdc74
Houston
Member since Jan 2007
1195 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:40 pm to
Da Honey Badger was also a Matt House fan.
Posted by MasterJSchroeder
Berwick
Member since Nov 2020
993 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:28 pm to
Veteran players doing what Veteran players are supposed to do

That's all

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
5801 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:45 pm to
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This is his last shot as HC. He needs to swing for the fences. It's too late, he will be replaced in January.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64501 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:52 pm to
Badger also picked the wrong lotto numbers last week.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
2977 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:22 pm to
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DA's demeanor gets him a bad reputation from fans but it can be a demeanor that his players can often appreciate. We have an alpha on the offensive side of the ball and now i really do think Dennis Allen can have success in this league.

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