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re: Goff just signed for $53 million per year
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes, they have a title window. We are failing to win the worst division in football.
The Lions are 21-13 over a two year span, and lost in the NFC championship game and you think they are the “championship model.”
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irrational
You are very. Lol.
Lions are not it bud.
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:10 am to Townedrunkard
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Is Goff better? I’d say so. Is he 15-20 million a year better, frick no lol..
You’re talking about ~ 4% in terms of cap space the contracts occupy.
Probably about how it should be for a team leader who has been to the Super Bowl, another NFCCG and a divisional round. Played on 4 win and 3 win LA and DET teams, only to make deep playoff runs with each. A guy who has a 57% win vs a guy who has lost both playoff games he was in with a career 45% win
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:17 am to GynoSandberg
Throw out the stats, Goff just has a winning edge. I’ve always been impressed by Goff since he brought the rams back from down 13 to earn a trip to the superbowl in 2018
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:20 am to Townedrunkard
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Is he 15-20 million a year better, frick no lol..
I’d say it’s close. Goff is a proven playoff caliber quarterback. The only difference is I think Goff is worth maybe 35-40 million per year. Carr is worth about 20
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:04 am to High Life
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The only difference is I think Goff is worth maybe 35-40 million per year. Carr is worth about 20
thank you for your deemed perceived random values. We'll send notice to the league and 32 GM's.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:26 am to Chad504boy
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random values
Geno = 25/year
Minshew = 12/year
Carr is in this caliber. This is the transition qb very low chance of postseason success realm. Funny enough minshew is actually 2-0 in the playoffs.
Mahomes is 45/year
I could never justify paying a qb more than what Mahomes makes even though alot of teams are. Daniel jones makes 40/year which is hilarious. So I guess you could justify paying Goff around 40.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:33 am to P bean
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The Lions are 21-13 over a two year span, and lost in the NFC championship game and you think they are the “championship model.”
Where did I say the bolded words?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:41 am to High Life
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Geno = 25/year
Minshew = 12/year
Carr is in this caliber.
i mean you can type such things but it doesn't make it true whatsoever.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:20 am to P bean
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FYI
I imagine the chicken littles of the lions board(s) are making tampon runs now.
what does this have to do with anything?
Are you comparing Carr to Goff?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:22 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Carr -
He also Screwed our chances at getting a top 10 pick and maybe being able to trade for Jayden Daniels
Carr>>>J. Daniels
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:22 am to P bean
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Goff is getting top pay tho at 53 million a year.
Goff wins.
Period.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:30 am to Chad504boy
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doesn't make it true whatsoever.
I mean him and geno looked identical last year.
Carr: 17 games, 3900 yards, 25 toucdowns
Geno: 15 games, 3700 yards, 21 touchdowns
I think looking at qbr is kinda stupid but since face painters love to bring up QBR:
Minshew: 59.6
Geno: 59.5
Carr: 56.5
I don't think its a stretch to call them the same caliber.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:37 am to High Life
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I mean him and geno looked identical last year.
Carr: 17 games, 3900 yards, 25 toucdowns
Geno: 15 games, 3700 yards, 21 touchdowns
I think looking at qbr is kinda stupid but since face painters love to bring up QBR:
Minshew: 59.6
Geno: 59.5
Carr: 56.5
I don't think its a stretch to call them the same caliber.
its a huge stretch. carr is and always was a franchise. Geno has like 2 years in a career worth discussing.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:44 am to Chad504boy
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its a huge stretch. carr is and always was a franchise.
Both Carr and Geno are borderline starters. They are both on the last leg of their uneventful careers. I can compare whoever the frick I want to derek carr and it wouldn't be a "stretch". You know why? Because he's Derek fricking Carr
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:59 am to Chad504boy
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carr is and always was a franchise
Franchise what?
Carr and Geno have identical win %s
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:08 am to GynoSandberg
159 starts vs 66.
carr has more starts than kirk cousins.
carr has more starts than kirk cousins.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:13 am to Chad504boy
And in all those starts hasn’t really lead his teams to anything. A “franchise” QB should carry his team to something at some point even if it’s a couple of wildcard births/wins.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:15 am to Geauxldninja
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Goff is a stud in case you haven’t been paying attention the last 2 years.
Goff hasn't won shite and is extremely vulnerable in cold weather games
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:18 am to St Augustine
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And in all those starts hasn’t really lead his teams to anything.
good point. we should have just signed that mahomes fellow.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:22 am to tzimme4
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Goff hasn't won shite
He's got 5 playoff wins. One of which was a NFC championship. I don't think he's an elite QB but to say he's never won anything is just false.
Carr has legitimately never won shite. Literally nothing.
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