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Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:32 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:They will do whatever the hell Lebron tells them to do.
They not burning one of their only assets on Lebronny. Hes not even a draft able player. They will use a 2nd on him tho.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:52 pm to Townedrunkard
I don't get why Bronny would want to even go into the draft this year. He 100% knows that he will get labeled as a guy that only got drafted because of his dad.
There's seriously nothing wrong with transferring and trying to earn it a little more. Because at this point he hasn't done anything even remotely close to enough to deserve getting drafted.
He's decent enough to play another few years and develop into a draftable player. He's doing himself and his career a disservice by coming out now. He will never be able to live this down. Not sure why Lebron would even encourage him to come out.
There's seriously nothing wrong with transferring and trying to earn it a little more. Because at this point he hasn't done anything even remotely close to enough to deserve getting drafted.
He's decent enough to play another few years and develop into a draftable player. He's doing himself and his career a disservice by coming out now. He will never be able to live this down. Not sure why Lebron would even encourage him to come out.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:04 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I don't get why Bronny would want to even go into the draft this year. He 100% knows that he will get labeled as a guy that only got drafted because of his dad.
Its a weak draft probably has more of a chance to get drafted than other drafts. He might get labeled that in the beginning but people won’t care about that if he becomes a decent player. And if he doesn’t at least he got his shot to try to live out his dream.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:05 pm to Pels_Yaz
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if he becomes a decent player
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:47 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Its a weak draft probably has more of a chance to get drafted than other drafts.
As it sits, it wouldn't matter what the draft class looks like, he would be getting drafted because of his dad. Even in a weak class, in no way would he be on anybody's big board (currently not in the top 100) if it wasn't from Lebron.
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He might get labeled that in the beginning but people won’t care about that if he becomes a decent player
Which he's decreasing the odds of him being able to do so 10 fold by coming out right now. If he actually wants to give himself a shot at being an NBA player, he needs to stay in school and improve his craft.
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And if he doesn’t at least he got his shot to try to live out his dream.
By sitting on the bench on a g league team and never sniffing the NBA? He had some pretty tough health issues that set him back, but I mean the facts are he was a bench player average 5 points a game on a 18 loss USC team. If it's a make a wish dream type situation, his dad can make his wish come true this year or 2-3 years from now, it doesn't matter. He needs to try and earn it himself or this will never leave him.
Just yesterday he spoke about wanting to create own narrative. He is doing the exact opposite of that. He is riding off his dads success, not his own, that's not creating your own narrative. There is no argument that can be made that says this is a smart decision.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:13 pm to Townedrunkard
Geezus just when I thought you couldn't get more stupid.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:40 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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If it's a make a wish dream type situation, his dad can make his wish come true this year or 2-3 years from now, it doesn't matter. He needs to try and earn it himself or this will never leave him.
The guy just wants to play in the NBA and if his dad gets him there- who cares? I’m a parent myself- I want to do anything I can to give my kid opportunities to fulfill his dream. If Lebron is doing that- you think Bronny should sit there and say no thanks to the NBA dad- Im going back to college and dont help me at all?
Ask yourself if your parent gave you an amazing opportunity to fulfill your dream- would you just say no thanks, I’ll earn it myself.I highly doubt you would do that. In fact you take the opportunity and make the best of it.
Lot of these posts are about nepotism. This stuff happens everywhere- for instance if you have a kid, and you have ability to let him go to the best school possible, will you tell him no I can’t do that, you need to earn it yourself?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:09 pm to Pels_Yaz
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The guy just wants to play in the NBA and if his dad gets him there- who cares?
And his dad can still get him there 1-3 years from now. The difference is he might could have earned it by then.
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I’m a parent myself- I want to do anything I can to give my kid opportunities to fulfill his dream. If Lebron is doing that- you think Bronny should sit there and say no thanks to the NBA dad- Im going back to college and dont help me at all?
He literally said he wants to write his own narrative. Having your dad make a team draft you when you don't deserve to be drafted is not doing that. At least try your best to do it on your own, right now, he's not doing that.
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Ask yourself if your parent gave you an amazing opportunity to fulfill your dream- would you just say no thanks, I’ll earn it myself.I highly doubt you would do that. In fact you take the opportunity and make the best of it.
Lot of these posts are about nepotism. This stuff happens everywhere- for instance if you have a kid, and you have ability to let him go to the best school possible, will you tell him no I can’t do that, you need to earn it yourself?
This isn't a normal real life job/school experience. This is something that will stay with him his entire career and long after. He will be a joke in the league and all of social media. Your kid isn't going to feel that type of pressure by you giving him a job he doesn't deserve. Also, telling a kid to earn something himself isn't the worst advice in the world. Especially when you could tell him to "try and earn it, and if by next year you want to come out, I'll get you on a team." Lebron has the ability to do that.
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Lot of these posts are about nepotism. This stuff happens everywhere- for instance if you have a kid, and you have ability to let him go to the best school possible, will you tell him no I can’t do that, you need to earn it yourself?
Is he smart enough to go to that school? Then yes, I would let him go to the best school if I had the ability and felt like he would succeed there. Bronny James is not good enough to be in the NBA and would not succeed there. Yes, nepotism happens all the time, but this isn't just a regular situation. Of all the options for him right now, going to the NBA is by far the worst. As a farther, I would not want to put my kid in a situation where he is guaranteed to fail.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 5:17 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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And his dad can still get him there 1-3 years from now. The difference is he might could have earned it by then.
This is fair but Lebron may be out of the league and his influence to get him on a team may be gone.
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He literally said he wants to write his own narrative. Having your dad make a team draft you when you don't deserve to be drafted is not doing that. At least try your best to do it on your own, right now, he's not doing that.
I agree with you here- the interview was strange. Almost like he doesn’t recognize the main reason hes there- which is worrisome but hes also a young kid so not sure how much blame I can give him.
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This isn't a normal real life job/school experience. This is something that will stay with him his entire career and long after. He will be a joke in the league and all of social media. Your kid isn't going to feel that type of pressure by you giving him a job he doesn't deserve. Also, telling a kid to earn something himself isn't the worst advice in the world. Especially when you could tell him to "try and earn it, and if by next year you want to come out, I'll get you on a team." Lebron has the ability to do that.
I’ll be honest. I think you’re thiinking this will affect them more than they already dealt with. This lebron stuff has followed them all their life. If you cant handle social media and criticism in any manner- you shouldn’t be in the league to begin with. Hes also protected by Lebron’s media machine- the dude basically controls whats said on espn. Honestly, I think the social media and nepotism pressure is the least of his concerns.
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Yes, nepotism happens all the time, but this isn't just a regular situation.
Its a typical nepotism situation it just involves Lebron and the NBA thats why its blown up. It happens everywhere. In coaching, politics, schools, etc. The only thing irregular about it, is it involves Lebron and the NBA.
Yes as a father you don’t want your kid to fail. But what if as a father you’re able to give him an opportunity he normally would never have? To me thats what lebron is doing. Frankly, your anger should be more towards the NBA and their teams that are inviting him to the combine more thab towards Lebron in my opinion.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:00 am to Pels_Yaz
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I’ll be honest. I think you’re thiinking this will affect them more than they already dealt with. This lebron stuff has followed them all their life. If you cant handle social media and criticism in any manner- you shouldn’t be in the league to begin with.
He shouldn't be in the league based on merit alone.
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Its a typical nepotism situation it just involves Lebron and the NBA thats why its blown up. It happens everywhere. In coaching, politics, schools, etc. The only thing irregular about it, is it involves Lebron and the NBA.
1. If it's typical, name another situation where this has happened in the NBA? The only thing remotely coming close to mind is Patrick Ewing Jr but he at least had a halfway decent college career and his 2nd round pick was justifiable and he was decent enough to bounce around to a few teams and play ok in the D-League.
2. Just because it happens in other fields doesn't make it right.
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Yes as a father you don’t want your kid to fail. But what if as a father you’re able to give him an opportunity he normally would never have? To me thats what lebron is doing
I don't know what to say if you think this is a good idea and good fatherly advice. "Yes son, you can have it the easy way and not have to earn it at all. I know this is setting you up for failure and ridicule and I could get you on a team next year or the year after when you'll be better prepared, but if this is really what you want for your birthday, I'll do it."
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Frankly, your anger should be more towards the NBA and their teams that are inviting him to the combine more thab towards Lebron in my opinion.
Anger? I can't stand LeBron but I feel more pity for Bronny than I do anger towards LeBron (which I have none of) in this situation. I honestly can;t believe LeBron would be this stupid and thought of him as a smarter guy than this, but it just shows he's dumber than I thought.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:24 am to iwyLSUiwy
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He shouldn't be in the league based on merit alone.
I never said I disagree with this but it has nothing to do with my reply in where you stated Bronny would be ridiculed on social media for this.
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1. If it's typical, name another situation where this has happened in the NBA? The only thing remotely coming close to mind is Patrick Ewing Jr but he at least had a halfway decent college career and his 2nd round pick was justifiable and he was decent enough to bounce around to a few teams and play ok in the D-League. 2. Just because it happens in other fields doesn't make it right.
Ok lets talk about in other fields then. Does it really upset you that Kyle Shanahan and Klint Kubiak got their opportunities in the league because of nepotism? Does it upset you George W Bush got an opportunity to run for president because of George H Bush? Do you find these situations wrong and upsetting as well? Or the fact you can’t stand Lebron is the real reason this upsets you?
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Yes son, you can have it the easy way and not have to earn it at all. I know this is setting you up for failure and ridicule and I could get you on a team next year or the year after when you'll be better prepared, but if this is really what you want for your birthday, I'll do it.
You’re so controlling that you rather not give him the chance to fail because you think theres no way in hell he’ll succeed. I don’t know what to say if you think your control and not believing in your son is not something thats concerning for you as a father.
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Anger? I can't stand LeBron but I feel more pity for Bronny than I do anger towards LeBron (which I have none of) in this situation. I honestly can;t believe LeBron would be this stupid and thought of him as a smarter guy than this, but it just shows he's dumber than I thought.
Again you put everything on Lebron. But he was invited to the combine and teams are actively scouting him. I will say this again if you’re the NBA or a team why even act like hes a legitimate prospect? We blame Lebron but the league gives him this power and we act like the NBA has no control over this. Reality is NBA is also benefitting because Bronny legitimately gets them more money and eyes on a weak draft.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 10:36 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 3:32 pm to Townedrunkard
I like it
Posted on 5/16/24 at 3:46 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I don't get why Bronny would want to even go into the draft this year. He 100% knows that he will get labeled as a guy that only got drafted because of his dad.
Because once his dad retires, he's definitely never getting drafted.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 4:04 pm to Pels_Yaz
So here's my statement...
And your reply...
Literally said I'm talking about the NBA and this situation and that just because it happens in other fields doesn't make it right.
Dude, I'm not as emotional as you. This doesn't upset me. I dislike LBron and it's what the OP is talking about, I'm not posting on the Poli board about nepotism in politics.
I'm not a dad and this situation would in no way apply to me if I was. Advising a kid to stay in college and get better at his game instead of sitting on the bench would not be a controlling move in a dads part/controlling move on LeBron's part. You're not even making sense. That's called giving advice that's in the best interest of your kid instead of selfishly wanting to play with him so you can be the first person ever to play with their kid. And I know there is no way in hell he'll succeed if he comes out now. Hence me making the argument I am.
Sure, it's dumb that he was invited, I never said it wasn't. But we know why he was invited, and it's not because of his skillset.
Never said it didn't.
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1. If it's typical, name another situation where this has happened in the NBA?
And your reply...
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Ok lets talk about in other fields then.
Literally said I'm talking about the NBA and this situation and that just because it happens in other fields doesn't make it right. quote:
Does it upset you George W Bush got an opportunity to run for president because of George H Bush? Do you find these situations wrong and upsetting as well? Or the fact you can’t stand Lebron is the real reason this upsets you?
Dude, I'm not as emotional as you. This doesn't upset me. I dislike LBron and it's what the OP is talking about, I'm not posting on the Poli board about nepotism in politics.
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You’re so controlling that you rather not give him the chance to fail because you think theres no way in hell he’ll succeed. I don’t know what to say if you think your control and not believing in your son is not something thats concerning for you as a father.
I'm not a dad and this situation would in no way apply to me if I was. Advising a kid to stay in college and get better at his game instead of sitting on the bench would not be a controlling move in a dads part/controlling move on LeBron's part. You're not even making sense. That's called giving advice that's in the best interest of your kid instead of selfishly wanting to play with him so you can be the first person ever to play with their kid. And I know there is no way in hell he'll succeed if he comes out now. Hence me making the argument I am.
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Again you put everything on Lebron. But he was invited to the combine and teams are actively scouting him.
Sure, it's dumb that he was invited, I never said it wasn't. But we know why he was invited, and it's not because of his skillset.
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Reality is NBA is also benefitting because Bronny legitimately gets them more money and eyes on a weak draft.
Never said it didn't.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 4:23 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Dude, I'm not as emotional as you.
Im not emotional about this but you seem to have started to pick apart my post and directly respond in long paragraphs to it.(hence why I’m doing the same). Its why I assumed you were upset- unless you just enjoy long paragraph responses. Otherwise both of us don’t care but I’m assuming you can telepathically read my emotions through my posts so who knows.
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I'm not a dad and this situation would in no way apply to me if I was.
Should have just said this. Explains a lot in regards to your response in this situation. I’m not going to argue giving parenting advice to their kid when you’ve never been a parent.
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But we know why he was invited, and it's not because of his skillset.
I have agreed with you several times on this. The issue is you being disappointed in Lebron and the situation and you expressing your disappointment in these long posts. But yeah you’re not emotional or upset lol
Posted on 5/16/24 at 4:39 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Its why I assumed you were upset- unless you just enjoy long paragraph responses. Otherwise both of us don’t care but I’m assuming you can telepathically read my emotions through my posts so who knows.
So you assumed I was upset and angry but I'm the one who reads emotions
You post on here nonstop, you are constantly calling people dumb or idiots and childlike comments, yea, it's pretty obvious to see you're emotional or just a grown baby. quote:
Should have just said this. Explains a lot in regards to your response in this situation. I’m not going to argue giving parenting advice to their kid when you’ve never been a parent.
Stay in school is now bad parenting advice, got it.
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The issue is you being disappointed in Lebron and the situation and you expressing your disappointment in these long posts
I mean it was just in response to your take, which I disagreed with. Debating subjects is kind of what we do around here. Sorry if it was more than two sentences and a little too hard for you to follow. no worries, I won't respond to any of your post any more.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 4:47 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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So you assumed I was upset and angry but I'm the one who reads emotions You post on here nonstop, you are constantly calling people dumb or idiots and childlike comments, yea, it's pretty obvious to see you're emotional or just a grown baby.
And you’re not emotional lol
By the way have I called you dumb or idiot? Or is that just an insecurity of yours?
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Stay in school is now bad parenting advice, got it.
Is your advice for Bronny getting a degree then thats great advice. I didn’t realize you cared so much about Bronnys education. Good for you!
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I mean it was just in response to your take, which I disagreed with. Debating subjects is kind of what we do around here. Sorry if it was more than two sentences and a little too hard for you to follow. no worries, I won't respond to any of your post any more.
Yeah debating is fine unless someone disagrees with you right? - then lets give below the belt comments and say the other person is emotional lol.
Feel free not to respond but lets see if this holds true lol
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