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re: Magic are the betting favorite to land Brandon Ingram
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:56 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:56 pm to WicKed WayZ
Whst do you like about Duren? He's a bad defender and can't shoot
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:58 am to ghost2most
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:16 am to TigerinATL
If they're going for a rebuild, I doubt they want Ingram.
So what could we give them?
So what could we give them?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:19 am to TigerinATL
They can rebuild but owing picks and swaps to the Spurs the next two years due to the Murray trade makes that questionable as hell.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:22 am to ghost2most
I'm guessing this is just subterfuge. The previous sales pitch was "Somebody please take this team cancer off our hands." Now they can say "We got the #1 pick. It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to move on from Trae. There's absolutely nothing wrong with him so you should give us a lot of stuff for him...or best offer."
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:31 am to teke184
I don’t see how the Hawks CAN rebuild given the pick situation unless they get picks back that could be very high.
I’d say it’s more likely they make trades for vets to make the team fit better now.
I’d say it’s more likely they make trades for vets to make the team fit better now.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:34 am to Fun Bunch
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I don’t see how the Hawks CAN rebuild given the pick situation unless they get picks back that could be very high. I’d say it’s more likely they make trades for vets to make the team fit better now.
Trading Trae and Murray should get them back young guys and picks. I think Hawks ownership is done with these high salaries and wants to start over.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:37 am to Pels_Yaz
Except they don’t own their 2025 pick at all and the Spurs have swap rights for 2026.
Tanking when you definitely don’t have your own pick seems dumb unless they cut a deal with San Antonio to move back in exchange for some of their own picks back.
Tanking when you definitely don’t have your own pick seems dumb unless they cut a deal with San Antonio to move back in exchange for some of their own picks back.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:39 am to Fun Bunch
I don’t know but if they decide to bottom out SA is sitting in a gold mine .
Bad to worse for the Pels .
Bad to worse for the Pels .
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:43 am to teke184
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Tanking when you definitely don’t have your own pick seems dumb unless they cut a deal with San Antonio to move back in exchange for some of their own picks back.
It’s really an ownership doesn’t want to pay high salaries over the common competitive thing. I agree its dumb but sometimes ownership does what it wants.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:51 am to Pels_Yaz
Hawks’ payroll is not the worst one out there.
They have 12 guys under contract and are $8m below the tax. And they could probably flip Capela and Bogdan for cap relief if needed.
They have 12 guys under contract and are $8m below the tax. And they could probably flip Capela and Bogdan for cap relief if needed.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:54 am to ghost2most
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If they're going for a rebuild, I doubt they want Ingram. So what could we give them?
Ingram to Houston
#3 and Herb to Atlanta
Trae, Capella and Smith Jr to Pels
Some iteration of that, add picks where needed
Then Atlanta can flip Murray back to Spurs for their two picks back and start their rebuild with two top 3 picks
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:10 am to Soggymoss
Pels would have to add about $13m in additional ballast to make this work, which likely means Nance and a small contract.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:11 am to teke184
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Hawks’ payroll is not the worst one out there. They have 12 guys under contract and are $8m below the tax. And they could probably flip Capela and Bogdan for cap relief if needed.
Its not but again its ownership not wanting to pay high salaries for a play in team. I think they’ve set their minds on a rebuild and frankly don’t want to live in NBA purgatory. I also think the GM might want to start over instead of focusing everything around Trae. When you have the first pick you sell your fan base that this is a young growing team and focus around Jalen Johnson and Sarr.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:25 am to Pels_Yaz
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. I think they’ve set their minds on a rebuild and frankly don’t want to live in NBA purgatory.
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I also think the GM might want to start over instead of focusing everything around Trae.
Well there's also the issue that Trae puts you in purgatory
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm not a Trae fan, but I'll pull for him with all my might if they trade for him.
I'm not so sure him with Zion would be a bad fit because he does push in transition, has to be accounted for from three, but sucks arse defensively. I think if you do this, you have to move CJ too because you can't have both of them on your perimeter, defensively.
What do we think about looking at Zach Edey as a backup C at one of the first round picks? He can't be worst than JV at pick and roll D, but can probably rebound just as well. This could put Larry playing backup 4.
What can be done for starting C?
I'm not so sure him with Zion would be a bad fit because he does push in transition, has to be accounted for from three, but sucks arse defensively. I think if you do this, you have to move CJ too because you can't have both of them on your perimeter, defensively.
What do we think about looking at Zach Edey as a backup C at one of the first round picks? He can't be worst than JV at pick and roll D, but can probably rebound just as well. This could put Larry playing backup 4.
What can be done for starting C?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:28 am to SaintEB
BI to Hawks
Trae and Jarrett Allen to Pels
CJ to Magic
Isaac and 2 Magic 1st to Cavs.
Mobley and Isaac would be a nice 4/5 combo.
Trae and Jarrett Allen to Pels
CJ to Magic
Isaac and 2 Magic 1st to Cavs.
Mobley and Isaac would be a nice 4/5 combo.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:21 pm to TeddyPadillac
Why would the Magic do this?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:33 pm to TeddyPadillac
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BI to Hawks
Trae and Jarrett Allen to Pels
CJ to Magic
Isaac and 2 Magic 1st to Cavs.
Mobley and Isaac would be a nice 4/5 combo
I'd rather just trade BI for Duren +2nds and keep the cap space at that point.
Or Allen for BI.
Adding Trae and subtracting CJ does absolutely nothing for us.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:37 pm to Dantheman504
We need a PG, C, and another shooter.
Adding a PG makes CJ better
Adding a center makes everyone better
Taking away CJ does nothing but hurt us as of now.
Why do we have to trade CJ, Herb, etccc to "get better".
So sick of this shite. Use the fricking picks we have and stop trading away talent.
Adding a PG makes CJ better
Adding a center makes everyone better
Taking away CJ does nothing but hurt us as of now.
Why do we have to trade CJ, Herb, etccc to "get better".
So sick of this shite. Use the fricking picks we have and stop trading away talent.
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