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re: Dakota Johnson's Madame Web press tour is one for the books. Now streaming on Netflix

Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:41 pm to
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outside of Tom Hardy's relationship with the symbiote, they refuse to allow themselves to have fun.

plain and simple.


That's probably a fair assessment. Venom and Morbius teaming up as an anti-hero team would have definitely gotten 10 year old me pumped up.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:12 pm to
I’ve now seen three social media people that would typically find SOMETHING nice to say about a superhero movie all say this is probably one of the worst movies they’ve ever seen. It must be really really bad
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:04 pm to
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I might have to watch it just to see how bad it is


I know, right?

Here's to hoping it somehow manages the "so bad it's good" tier
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7351 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:15 pm to
I’m waiting for is the Cosmonaut Variety Hour review of this movie. He’s got an ongoing series of “Worst Superhero Movie Ever” videos. (I’m a fan of the guy. He’s insightful and isn’t a drooling fanboy or a “muh woke” type)

LINK
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:45 am to
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I’m waiting for is the Cosmonaut Variety Hour review of this movie. He’s got an ongoing series of “Worst Superhero Movie Ever” videos. (I’m a fan of the guy. He’s insightful and isn’t a drooling fanboy or a “muh woke” type)


I'm a pretty big fan of his stuff. I don't always agree with his opinions, but he's pretty non-political, generally measuring a movie based on certain criteria. He's a huge comic fan, so he can usually point out when a character in a movie is true to the comic version or goes off the rails (and not as in being exactly the same, but rather if the movie remembers a core concept of the character or not).
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:11 am to
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MOST actors seem to despise acting in front of a green screen.


Green screen is fine for kids movies, but adults can clearly tell it's fake and for me it just takes me out of a movie
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:22 am to
Superhero movies are dead.

Real actors are doing smaller budget more traditional dramatic stuff.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:52 am to
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Green screen is fine for kids movies, but adults can clearly tell it's fake and for me it just takes me out of a movie


That's true; but in this case I was more referring to the actors. I imagine it's different when they only have to do a few scenes and there's stand-ins (not that it's the best example, but Jar-Jar Binks had the voice actor standing with the regular actors, but wearing a fake head so that they had something to look up at to maintain focus). Not quite the same as, say, a fight against something that realistically couldn't have a human stand-in (like the fights against the creatures during Infinity War/Endgame).

For your classically trained actors, I imagine it's extra brutal when there's no one for you to talk to.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:03 am to
I didn't really read comics books as a kid but have seen most comic movies that have come out in this Marvel universe (save for Venom 2 which is on my watch list). Yes, that includes Morbius.

What is this movie about? I haven't even heard of this.

Just to give you a gauge of my tolerance, I didn't hate The Marvels.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:37 am to
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What is this movie about? I haven't even heard of this.

Just to give you a gauge of my tolerance, I didn't hate The Marvels.


It's not a direct port from a comic story (as that one involves Peter Parker Spider-Man, Superior Spider-Man, Miles Morales Spider-Man, etc.) It's a hybrid of a few things:

1. The original Madam Web was an older woman who had special gifts to predict the future. She was involved in a few Spider-Man stories over the years.

2. This movie appears to feature a younger version of her (as opposed to the new Madam Web, a former Spider-Woman (Julia Carpenter) who was introduced during the 1980s event Secret Wars (not to be confused with the current Spider-Woman who wears the red suit, this one had a black costume).

3. The other women are other "spider-people" from the comics: Two other women who had the title "Spider-Woman" and Araña (the third one).

4. The apparent antagonist is a character by the name of Ezekiel, who in the comics was not a villain but tried to help Peter when Morlun went after him.

5. A whole story event where Morlun's family is hunting down various Spider-people from all the universes comes a good bit later.


This looks only loosely connected to that original story arc. It's possible they're saving Morlun for a Spider-Man movie, but honestly he has so many much more recognizable enemies that I'm not sure they will bother (unless the whole point of introducing a slew of Spider-people is to setup a larger battle).

I haven't looked into the various "who owns who" to see how much that plays into which characters are being introduced and who's being left out, but it definitely is a reason why so many movies are either Spider-Man villains or Spider-people heroes.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7351 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 12:05 pm to
Man, it seems like Sony is just cobbling together the most random shite for a Spider-Verse movie. It's like trying to make dinner when all you have is rice, Hawaiian punch powder, capers and Tic-Tacs.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:38 pm to
Who is this movie for tho?

Who wanted this?
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10688 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:44 pm to
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I can only think of one thing that can turn this around.. And her name is Sidney's Tits.

That's two things.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116327 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:48 pm to
When your own star is bashing it in advance that is generally not good
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30292 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:58 pm to
Some of this is overstated. Actors in non-CGI movies have always talked to a stand-in actor or physical mark when they are the only one on screen when delivering their line. It's not that much different than a CGI scene.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29501 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:26 am to
Anyone see this yet??
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13334 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 7:41 am to
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Anyone see this yet??


Listened to the Midnight Boys podcast (from The Ringer) this morning which featured their instant reactions from the movie and holy shite did they go in deep on this one. I almost can’t wait to get drunk and watch this on streaming one day based on how bad they said it was.

Apparently, they said the girls don’t even wear their spider suits in the movie
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29501 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 8:45 am to
I listened to the big picture this morning and Sean and Amanda both shite all over it. Like in a “one of the worst moves of the decade” cutdown of it
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13334 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:34 am to
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I listened to the big picture this morning and Sean and Amanda both shite all over it. Like in a “one of the worst moves of the decade” cutdown of it


Sean Fennessy might be the most pretentious person who discusses movies on a regular basis but in this instance I'm guessing he's 100% correct
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51702 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:38 am to
Which one of y'all went see it?

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