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re: Twittter user says baseball is hardest sport to play because elite athletes “struggle” ?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:29 pm to TackySweater
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:29 pm to TackySweater
One of the best athletes of all time (who played in the mlb) can’t even dribble a basketball.
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:41 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Anyone can’t just develop the hand eye required to play pro baseball, no
I said it's tougher skills that basketball, but HEC is 100% a skill
Now, some people have natural gifts related to certain skillsets, but HEC can be developed, so, again, if you meet the baseline athleticism requirements, anyone can develop that level of HEC
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:45 pm to TackySweater
Baseball is hard because the grind is much worse than any other league.
NFL has 17 regular season games spaced roughly a week apart with one or two bye weeks.
NBA has 82 games and they have limited back to backs after bitching by the players.
NHL has about as many games as the NBA.
MLB is also the only sport which is not under strict time limits, even though recent changes have been made to speed games and keep teams from being deadlocked in extra innings.
Is it definitively harder than other sports? No. But no other pro sport will have a doubleheader.
NFL has 17 regular season games spaced roughly a week apart with one or two bye weeks.
NBA has 82 games and they have limited back to backs after bitching by the players.
NHL has about as many games as the NBA.
MLB is also the only sport which is not under strict time limits, even though recent changes have been made to speed games and keep teams from being deadlocked in extra innings.
Is it definitively harder than other sports? No. But no other pro sport will have a doubleheader.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’m not sure what you’re classifying as “athleticism”, but just because you can run fast or jump high doesn’t mean you have or can develop elite hand eye coordination
You’re also underselling the skills basketball players have as well, but that’s a separate argument. Framing it as Westbrook/Griffey (two hall of fame professionals) is an idiotic way to go about arguing this
You’re also underselling the skills basketball players have as well, but that’s a separate argument. Framing it as Westbrook/Griffey (two hall of fame professionals) is an idiotic way to go about arguing this
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:51 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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It's only that way because the of how the game is set up. The rules of the game are what make it difficult. People say hitting a baseball is hard because even major leaguers "fail 70% of the time". They don't fail to hit it 70% of the time, they fail to get "a hit", meaning they don't get on base. That's two different things. Some type of contact is made on the majority of at bats. If they changed the rules of football and said you could have 15 players on defense, then it suddenly becomes much more difficult.
basketball players only score points when the ball goes in the hoop, but they're still shooting. If they made the basket bigger, it would be easier.
soccer players on score goals when the ball goes in a goal of a defined size. If they made the goal bigger, it wouldn't be as hard.
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If they changed the rules of football and said you could have 15 players on defense
if there were 15 players on offense and additional eligible receivers and lineman to block would it be?
It's not some novel idea that the rules of a sport can make a sport easier or harder and that doesn't really change the argument for hitting a baseball in play and getting on base. It seems like you're arguing semantics when you know what the point of the statement is
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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anyone can develop that level of HEC
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:53 pm to WaterLink
How is there 4 pages on a thread about a random Twitter bot post 
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:54 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:The number of MLB players who would be good high school basketball players is far higher than the number of NBA players who would be good high school baseball players.
a lot of MLB players would look like clowns trying to dribble in a high school basketball game too
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:56 pm to Dire Wolf
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people forget
he threw in an independent league
his career stats:
6.2 IP
10 BB
0 Ks
4 H
5 ER
He also played baseball his whole life until his senior year of high school when he transferred to a school that didn't have a baseball team, so it's not like he just picked a ball and started throwing after his NBA career was over
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How many are 6-2 without shoes? Or we can go 6-1 without shoes to make it more expansive. That's your only population that can be considered for the NBA.
well, the median height of an MLB player is 6'2." There are 26 players on the active roster and 30 teams, so 780 total MLB players at any given time. Half of that number is 390. That's also position dependent. You best athletes in baseball are typically going to be outfielders and middle infielders. By position, the average heights for them are:
OF: 6'1.5"
SS: 6'0.5"
2B: 5'11.5"
Conversely, a huge portion of NBA players are too tall to be effective hitters. Very few 6'7"+ players have success hitting. There are pitchers who do, but that requires a more nuanced and genetic skillset. There are a ton of NBA players that size out of having a traditionally good body makeup for baseball
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The correct argument is there are a lot more Russell Westbrooks in the NBA that could become Griffey, but no Griffeys could become Westbrook.
the answer is close to 0 for both
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
A lower level MLB player just retired from baseball and enrolled at Arkansas as a 28 yr old to try to become and NFL WR.
He was a 4* highly sought after football player in HS and word is he may be a starter this year in Bobby Petrino's offense.
He played MLB for 3 yrs. His career stats are:
BA .176, 2 HR, and 6 RBi
He is a freak athlete and is trying to be an NFL WR now.
If he has a decent season I'm sure he will get picked up as an NFL free agent for a camp.
If he does, it just shows how hard it is to be an MLB hitter.
He was a 4* highly sought after football player in HS and word is he may be a starter this year in Bobby Petrino's offense.
He played MLB for 3 yrs. His career stats are:
BA .176, 2 HR, and 6 RBi
He is a freak athlete and is trying to be an NFL WR now.
If he has a decent season I'm sure he will get picked up as an NFL free agent for a camp.
If he does, it just shows how hard it is to be an MLB hitter.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:22 pm to Jack Ruby
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He played MLB for 3 yrs. His career stats are:
BA .176, 2 HR, and 6 RBi
He is a freak athlete and is trying to be an NFL WR now.
If he has a decent season I'm sure he will get picked up as an NFL free agent for a camp.
If he does, it just shows how hard it is to be an MLB hitter.
OK so if he never plays a down in the NFL will you say the NFL is harder? Since he had ABs at the MLB level?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You have enough of them try, and one will become Griffey.
You’ve lost your damn mind.
We haven’t had another KG Jr in MLB since he retired, and these are guys that have played the game their whole life. You’re not getting that type of talent/production out of someone from the NBA, there’s no freakin way.
You’ll never admit that you’re wrong, but here we are. Not even sure why I’m wasting my time telling you this
ETA- I’m not saying that there’s baseball guys that can play in the nba, or football guys in mlb, or anything like that. Professionals are just that, professionals. You aren’t going to trot ANYONE out on a field they’ve never played on and get good or even subpar results out of them. This whole idea is retarded, for any sport
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:51 pm to PP7 for heisman
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The number of MLB players who would be good high school basketball players is far higher than the number of NBA players who would be good high school baseball players.
This is a stupid point to try to make as well
This whole thread should be deleted
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:14 pm to PP7 for heisman
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The number of MLB players who would be good high school basketball players is far higher than the number of NBA players who would be good high school baseball players.
probably a lot more MLB players that played basketball than NBA players that played HS baseball.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:06 pm to TackySweater
Great thing about baseball is anyone can play regardless of size. If you put the work in and get better you can have a shot at playing a higher level in college or minors.
Football/basketball usually requires god given talent and stature.
Football/basketball usually requires god given talent and stature.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:46 pm to TackySweater
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This guy is so off base here lol. But I’m sure he was looking for clicks.
Baseball is a mostly combination of reflexes, vision, hand to eye coordination, technique and mental toughness. Athleticism is useless without mastering those other attributes. I don't care how big, fast and agile a guy is. None of that helps you block out the thought of taking a fastball in the earhole, gives you the courage to take a screaming one hopper in the chest at shorstop or the calm demeanor to get the ball over the plate with a 3-0 count, bases loaded and the winning run on 3rd.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:30 pm to TackySweater
Stroud looks dumb throwing a baseball there, but that arm mechanics is exactly why he gets such a tight spiral out quickly with a football in his hand. I’m sure Tim Tebow looks way better throwing a baseball, and it’s also why he doesn’t throw a football well.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:35 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Y’all expect Westbrook to look like prime Ken Griffey Jr out there? Laughable
This. Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player who ever lived, never got above AA, much less make a major league roster and look like a prime Ken Griffey Jr out there
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