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re: Twittter user says baseball is hardest sport to play because elite athletes “struggle” ?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:06 am to Tiger Prawn
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:06 am to Tiger Prawn
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How so? I'm finding it unlikely that there's NBA guys who could play in MLB.
I'll do the same with NFL (which would translate a lot better). How many 6-2 guys are in the MLB? How many of those guys have the athletic profile for the NBA?
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If you took NBA and MLB players and put them in local adult rec leagues in the opposite sport, the MLB players would fare far better on average in an amateur basketball rec league than NBA players would do in amateur baseball leagues.
Sure, but that's a silly way to judge transferability (and I already said that in my post).
The minimum height/athleticism standards for the NBA basically eliminate almost all (if not 100% all) of the MLB from consideration. There is no such bar the other way.
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:14 am to Tiger Prawn
people forget
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:28 am to TackySweater
I’m a baseball fiend. Love it. Always will. But baseball is the 2nd hardest sport behind golf. I don’t care what anyone says.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:29 am to Tiger Prawn
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Most pro athletes in other sports probably wouldn't look too terrible in baseball out in the field. But 95% of them would be made to look silly taking batting practice against a good high school or JUCO pitcher.
But you could take a college or pro baseball player and odds are pretty good that he could join in some practice drills with a college teams in other sports and at least be halfway decent.
college and high-level 6a basketball players are a lot better than you are giving them credit for
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:There's a whole bunch of athletic MLB players that are the same height as an NBA point guard.
The minimum height/athleticism standards for the NBA basically eliminate almost all (if not 100% all) of the MLB from consideration. There is no such bar the other way.
If we're making that argument, then a 7' tall NBA player build would absolutely be at a disadvantage trying to play in the MLB. Gives the pitcher an advantage with a bigger strike zone. Hitter has a bigger zone to protect. Long arms take longer to get the head of the bat around on a swing. Their body size limits what positions they can play defensively. 7' guys don't generally run well, so makes it tough to cover ground in the outfield. And fielding ground balls is harder when you have that far to crouch down.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:39 am to TackySweater
Hitting a baseball is by far the hardest skill to master in any sport, but hockey is the hardest sport to play overall imo. You have to be a very skilled skater, puck handler and tough as nails.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:40 am to Dire Wolf
I will admit, I was unaware that T-Mac played minor league baseball.
I think a lot of them could play defense in baseball and do decent. The coordination needed for both sports would carry over in the field. I just don't think many of them could hit high level high school and above pitching.
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college and high-level 6a basketball players are a lot better than you are giving them credit for
I think a lot of them could play defense in baseball and do decent. The coordination needed for both sports would carry over in the field. I just don't think many of them could hit high level high school and above pitching.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:40 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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i'm imagining prime westbrook snatching homers as a center fielder
This is wayyyyy harder to do than people think it is. Same thing with a routine pop fly
Y’all expect Westbrook to look like prime Ken Griffey Jr out there? Laughable
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:42 am to Alt26
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Most athletes, even those who aren't in great shape. can generally field groundballs, catch a fly ball, and run the bases. Not at a gold glove level, of course. But doable.
Again, this is laughable. This shite is way harder than the average Joe thinks it is. People would be tripping all over themselves trying to do it
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:03 pm to dek81572
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Anytime a professional athlete can fail 70% of the time and be considered to have had a great year, you know it's hard.
dumbest thing that I see repeated all the time about baseball.
if we put 3 goalies in a soccer goal and noone ever scored would that make soccer the hardest sport to play in the world?
the best MLB players only strike out like 10% of the time.
Acuna struck out 11% of his ABs last year and only whiffed on 18% of pitches thrown.
How is hitting the ball hard right at someone considered "failing"? That's just how the rules are made by putting 9 defenders in the field.
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The hand eye coordination needed to hit 80+ mph pitches that have movement on them is unlike anything else in sports. Not easy for even the best of athletes to pick up on if they haven't been baseball players for a long time. What elsein sports can you be considered one of the best players in the game and still only succeed less than 30% of the time?
those 2 things arent the same though. Acuna had a hard hit ball on 55% of his ABs last year, and a strikeout on 11% of his ABs. He hit the ball hard 5 times more often than he didn't hit it. that doesn't mean he failed 70% of the time just because he hit it at someone or only hit it to the warning track instead of over the fence.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:14 pm to dek81572
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believe a baseball player could ride up the mountain
TV coverage does a terrible job demonstrating the grade on these climbs. I'm not sure there's one MLB player that would get up one of the big climbs. Not long ago someone asked Lance Armstrong if he could still do the climbs - he said yes, but not quickly. He still rides a lot and he's one of the best climbers ever. Those things are brutal.
He's not taking a bike anywhere
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:22 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Again, this is laughable. This shite is way harder than the average Joe thinks it is. People would be tripping all over themselves trying to do it
a lot of MLB players would look like clowns trying to dribble in a high school basketball game too
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:30 pm to Dire Wolf
Michael Jordan was a below average minor leaguer. Baseball is fricking hard.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:45 pm to Tiger Prawn
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If we're making that argument, then a 7' tall NBA player build would absolutely be at a disadvantage trying to play in the MLB.
Sure. Nobody is arguing otherwise.
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There's a whole bunch of athletic MLB players that are the same height as an NBA point guard.
How many are 6-2 without shoes? Or we can go 6-1 without shoes to make it more expansive. That's your only population that can be considered for the NBA.
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7' guys don't generally run well, so makes it tough to cover ground in the outfield.
Well this is where the NBA becomes a freakshow. Now not all of them can, but a lot can. Imagine a the fastest CF you've seen at 7-0 and there are a chunk of guys in the NBA like that
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:49 pm to TheRouxGuru
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This is wayyyyy harder to do than people think it is. Same thing with a routine pop fly
Y’all expect Westbrook to look like prime Ken Griffey Jr out there? Laughable
The correct argument is there are a lot more Russell Westbrooks in the NBA that could become Griffey, but no Griffeys could become Westbrook.
Or to use numbers, there is a higher chance a population of 100 with a 0.001% chance makes the MLB than a population of 0 with a 10% chance of making the NBA
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
The “correct” answer is 0% and 0%, actually
I’m not sure what a Westbrook becoming a Griffey even means but it’s an absolutely preposterous statement on the surface
I’m not sure what a Westbrook becoming a Griffey even means but it’s an absolutely preposterous statement on the surface
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Mate, is Uber NBA guy/Democrat your new lane?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:07 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I’m not sure what a Westbrook becoming a Griffey even means but it’s an absolutely preposterous statement on the surface
6-3 insane athlete who plays baseball as a youth.
You have enough of them try, and one will become Griffey.
Baseball is a primary skill-based, secondarily athleticism-based sport. Anyone can develop skills with the baseline athleticism. That's how you can have midgets and legit obese people play pro baseball.
Basketball has a much higher requirement of athleticism and physical size, without as much outlier skill required. There are probably tens of thousands of people in the US more skilled than a chunk of NBA players, but they never had any short of being in the NBA due to not meeting the size/athleticism requirements.
There are no people more skilled at baseball than pro baseball players unless there is a drug problem or something keeping them from playing. If you have the skill level, you can make a team, at 5-6, 145 or 6-1, 285
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:08 pm to NIH
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Mate, is Uber NBA guy/Democrat your new lane?
Not a Democrat, first of all, and when did I not talk about the NBA on here?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Anyone can develop skills with the baseline athleticism.
Anyone can’t just develop the hand eye required to play pro baseball, no
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