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re: Jaguars, city of Jacksonville agree to $1.4 billion stadium deal
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:05 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:05 am to Chad504boy
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Who gonna foot the bill on the billion dollar overage?
The deal says the Jags cover any overages
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:08 am to lsusa
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This is not the worst deal I have ever seen of this sort. When considering they also host UF-UGa there every year, they’re looking at entertainment around the stadium and it keeps Jacksonville as a “major league” professional sports town it’s probably a good deal.
Something else a lot of people aren't considering is that more shade will bring in more money as well.
Even in shaded seats an event there in the hot summer months is brutal. The Jags are almost always an early kickoff on Sundays, so you could have 3-4 home games where its just too hot to take kids or older folks.
Outside of Jags games, now you can actually book other types of events there during the summer without worrying about it as much.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 8:10 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:09 am to VolSquatch
Took my son to the jags/titans game in November last year. It was hotter than hades in that lower bowl.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:10 am to Stealth Matrix
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So, is it a roof or not a roof?
The word I keep hearing used is a "screen".
I think its a no brainer to just do a retractable roof, maybe its just not feasible without a complete demolition.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:23 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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Crazy that billionaire NFL owners expect the cities to foot the bill for their toys.
I agree but cities get serious tax revenue from these sporting events. It's a two way street.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:27 am to jcaz
What is this UF campus in Jacksonville going to be ? 10,000 graduate students is a lot surprised the jags don’t play more games in London like 2-4 per year
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:29 am to jcaz
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I agree but cities get serious tax revenue from these sporting events. It's a two way street.
You also have to be realistic about your city. The Jags could probably move to other cities that would be better for them financially. The vast majority of cities have 0 leverage. And a team can stay "in your city" and still move, like the Braves did. They aren't playing in Atlanta anymore.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:58 am to VolSquatch
Chicago was playing that angle hard too but I guess decided to cave in. It makes so much more sense to move out west to the burbs and build a massive sports entertainment complex.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:02 am to VolSquatch
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The word I keep hearing used is a "screen".
I think its a no brainer to just do a retractable roof, maybe its just not feasible without a complete demolition.
It is like a tinted window for lack of a better way to describe it, but it doesn't completely close the roof. The material is proven to reduce temps inside by like 10-12 degrees. Should be a really good improvement while keeping an open air stadium.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:04 am to jb4
jacksonville seems like a wonderful place to be a 50 year old white country club member that knows a few boat owners
but god damn it is a boring place to visit
but god damn it is a boring place to visit
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:08 am to Dire Wolf
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jacksonville seems like a wonderful place to be a 50 year old white country club member that knows a few boat owners
but god damn it is a boring place to visit
Thats a great way to describe it
Lot of stuff to do if you live here (I guess not really if you're the type who has to go to concert every weekend or something) but not much for visitors
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:08 am to Dire Wolf
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jacksonville seems like a wonderful place to be a 50 year old white country club member that knows a few boat owners
but god damn it is a boring place to visit
That's fair. It is probably a better place to live than to visit for "excitement". The draw is just the beach.
That said, there are plenty of NFL cities that are not exciting. Atalanta blows. Seattle is very mediocre other than some cool scenery. Houston sucks. Foxboro is an hour from Boston. Buffalo?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:11 am to Tiger in NY
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World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, Gator Bowl
You clearly missed the "If it's football only then yes" part of the quote and the wlocp and gator bowl fall in the football only category of yearly events.
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is also the lynchpin of that area that has Vystar arena and the Jumbo Shrimp stadium, as well as Daly's place ampitheater.
You mean Daily's place.
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Tiger in NY
I don't need a new yorker to explain somewhere I've lived for over 40 years, in case Floridians haven't made that abundantly clear by now.
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Jacksonville has gotten dramatically better as a metro area in the last decade,
No, it hasn't. We've just gone deeper into financing our football team and its owner's ambitions. Wayne Weaver didn't hold us hostage like the khan man, but you weren't here for that.
Edit: And we just announced for playing 2 games in London this season, again. Still at 0 regular season EPL games in Jacksonville. It's a very 1 way street around here.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:18 pm to MoarKilometers
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I don't need a new yorker to explain somewhere I've lived for over 40 years, in case Floridians haven't made that abundantly clear by now.
I love when stupid simpletons don't look at location. I have lived in Jacksonville for 13 years and i am not from New Yor.k.
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Jacksonville has gotten dramatically better as a metro area in the last decade,
No, it hasn't. We've just gone deeper into financing our football team and its owner's ambitions. Wayne Weaver didn't hold us hostage like the khan man, but you weren't here for that.
So, you don't think Jacksonville's metro area is btter than it was 10 years ago? Every single metric that exists says you are wrong, but whatever.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:37 pm to Tiger in NY
Superdome is probably 10 years or less from not being a viable NFL stadium (in their eyes re revenue) unless something changes
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:46 pm to NIH
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Superdome is probably 10 years or less from not being a viable NFL stadium (in their eyes re revenue) unless something changes
If we were getting a new team and looked for the best place to put the stadium it would be....the current location of the Superdome.
We'd have to do another renovation when the time comes for an upgrade. Or move to Tiger Stadium for 2 years and rebuild on the same spot.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
Will it have the swimming pools?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:09 pm to Tiger in NY
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I love when stupid simpletons don't look at location. I have lived in Jacksonville for 13 years and i am not from New Yor.k.
It was important enough to you to use it as your ID here
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So, you don't think Jacksonville's metro area is btter than it was 10 years ago?
I absolutely do not. I'd take pre 95 Jacksonville in heartbeat.
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Every single metric that exists says you are wrong, but whatever.
I'm intrigued by these metrics and how the jaguars are responsible for them.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:05 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
It's not crazy because it keeps happening. Just one time I wish someone would point out that if it is so great why doesn't the team/league just build it. Then they get to keep all the money.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:28 pm to NIH
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Superdome is probably 10 years or less from not being a viable NFL stadium (in their eyes re revenue) unless something changes
A new stadium won’t make New Orleanians more able to afford it
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