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re: NY FED survey: Americans expect mortgage rates to rise to nearly 10% in the next three yrs

Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:33 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74461 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:33 am to
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Who exactly are the dudes that control the ten year treasury bond?


Those evil dudes at Blackrock i bet!!!! Reeeeeee

This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11221 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:36 am to
Incredible that the Fed is this all powerful economic force but they haven’t been able to achieve any of their policy goals, ever. You would think we’d be pumping out 4-5% growth at full employment with stable 2% cost of living increases for decades on end.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74461 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Incredible that the Fed is this all powerful economic force but they haven’t been able to achieve any of their policy goals, ever.


exactly
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23007 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:39 am to
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You have to make it hurt to fix the problem.


Agree. But the administration said this was all transitory. So they ignored it.

What a world.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5322 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Who exactly are the dudes that control the ten year treasury bond



Fed doesn’t control monetary policy, interest rates, etc?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167583 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Rates should have gone to 10% immediately when inflation hit. This tick for tack, thread the needle, soft landing stuff is BS.

You have to make it hurt to fix the problem.


100%. I have been saying this
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17105 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
People are stuck in a house they won't sell with houses no one can buy. What could go wrong?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9072 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:08 pm to
FFFFFanny mmmmmmm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11221 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

interest rates


Nope

quote:

monetary policy


Yup

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79042 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:19 pm to
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Anyone that takes financial advice from a high school graduate, at best, who passed a real estate exam deserves all the pain coming to them.


I understand the personal responsibility point you are making but because I work with first time homebuyers on a daily basis, I’m going to gently push back.

Many of these people, particularly black people and young people lack ANY personal finance knowledge. They don’t understand interest rates. They don’t understand early payoff. They don’t understand escrow. They don’t understand credit scores and cost of ownership.

These people believe the “ experts “. They are amazingly susceptible to suggestion. Realtors have an ethical duty to cut the blue sky bullshite and let buyers know that interest rates may go up for the indefinite future.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5322 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:26 pm to
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wutangfinancial


So who controls interest rates?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11221 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:28 pm to
I don’t know. The bond market participants. Are you joking?
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
882 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:31 pm to
We just paid cash for a home lot. Luckily there is no requirement to build.

Looks like I'm gonna just have to put more down and dump in lots of equity or just sit firm.

At 2.99 I'm sitting firm. I will build if I can look in at 6.5...
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6150 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
Great!

Home prices are inflated. My home should not be worth double of what I paid to build 5 years ago, but it is.

Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5322 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:01 pm to
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wutangfinancial


I’m not kidding.
Who controls the interest rates?

I would think monetary policy leads to interest rates, and that the Fed is in charge of both.

You laughed and said no.

So, who controls the interest rates?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11221 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:08 pm to
I just told you it’s the market
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5906 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:17 pm to
The Fed will bring the rate down the minute unemployment reaches 5%. the unemployment numbers have been cooked and revised. The amount of pressure the current administration and if Trump is elected the amount of pressure he will put on the Fed will cause them to lower rates. The current rate Today is 7% on conventional lending, the rate doesn't have to drop drastically to help the market. If they get the rate to 6% the housing market will take off. I get phone calls every month from previous customers inquiring about the current rate. It's not to refinance they want to buy a new house. 17yrs as a loan officer and I know this to be true, 60% of homeowners treat homes like a car, they want a new one ever 5-7yrs.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5322 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:48 am to
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wutangfinancial


Ok. So you’re wrong. Got it.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
895 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:09 am to
The housing market boom of 2020-2022 created an unsustainable growth of home values. The market can sustain 3-5% appreciation by year on average.

Some markets went up by 50+% and people are going to be upset that it corrects back down by 25%. The market will recover, but the individuals who bought at the peak will take the losses.

Time for many to learn the lesson that real estate is not a guaranteed profit. It’s a market where timing is important.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9142 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:35 am to
Reverse mortgage companies say, "Hallelujah"!!
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