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re: 56% of GOP voters want govt to pay more in monthly SS benefits/medicare
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:26 am to Taxing Authority
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:26 am to Taxing Authority
Let's be more clear here.
- we both are on the same page when it comes to the very existence of it. If we were back in time when FDR put this out there, we would have stood against it.
- But that is not where we are in time. You and I are here in 2024. We both would rather have our money to invest. I could make a lot more just with dividends.
- I think income taxes need to go away too. But not the topic.
- We both think that welfare needs to go.
- Our difference is that I am not willing to allow the federal Gov to keep people's monies via a tax to simply get my wish of ending it. You are ok with that. That is our difference.
There are ways to end it and not have the federal gov laughing at the US Citizen behind closed doors calling us "suckers" "we took their money and will still find a way to tax them".
That is our only difference. The method to end it.
- we both are on the same page when it comes to the very existence of it. If we were back in time when FDR put this out there, we would have stood against it.
- But that is not where we are in time. You and I are here in 2024. We both would rather have our money to invest. I could make a lot more just with dividends.
- I think income taxes need to go away too. But not the topic.
- We both think that welfare needs to go.
- Our difference is that I am not willing to allow the federal Gov to keep people's monies via a tax to simply get my wish of ending it. You are ok with that. That is our difference.
There are ways to end it and not have the federal gov laughing at the US Citizen behind closed doors calling us "suckers" "we took their money and will still find a way to tax them".
That is our only difference. The method to end it.
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:58 am to BCreed1
quote:All immaterial anyway. SS is a debt funding instrument marketed as a retirement program.
I am not willing to allow the federal Gov to keep people's monies via a tax to simply get my wish of ending it. You are ok with that. That is our difference.
As long as our nation is in debt, the US government will not cede SS as a debt management tool.
Regarding ending the program with no payback for contributions, d/t the debt obligation structure, I'm fairly certain that would entail Constitutional challenges.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:46 pm to BCreed1
quote:I appreciate the attempt.
Let's be more clear here.
quote:it’s not a “wish”. It’s a recognition that WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY.
Our difference is that I am not willing to allow the federal Gov to keep people's monies via a tax to simply get my wish of ending it. You are ok with that. That is our difference.
quote:You don’t think they do that with all taxes?
There are ways to end it and not have the federal gov laughing at the US Citizen behind closed doors calling us "suckers" "we took their money and will still find a way to tax them".
I don’t care if those clowns are entertained or not. I do care if we have to go through a monetary collapse because we are unwilling to face up to the fact that we simply don’t have the money.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 12:49 pm
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