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re: Robert Redfield former CDC director says Bird Flu will be our great pandemic w/ mortality

Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:53 pm to
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That will be the tragic legacy of breaking the public's trust during covid. When action will need to be taken next time there is virus that has truly devastating fatality rates...we won't listen until it's too late .


We've had some more trustworthy folks rise from the COVID reporting ashes. I'll try and pay attention to the credentialed experts that get mercilessly attacked by specific media for the next one.

It's just as likely something could happen that they downplay for political power as it is to be the way it was with COVID.
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:56 pm to
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breaking the public's trust

I believe it was in 2013 that Ron Fouchier succeeded in making H5N1 transmissible by aerosols between ferrets, who have airways similar to humans. That started the gain of function that debate that Fauci and Collins secretly strangled in the cradle. Then their demon from Mojiang and their retarded new vaccine platform forever altered history. The problem here is that science is culturally incapable of admitting error and working to regain trust. As a discipline and profession, it is morally and philosophically stunted and immature. So until it grows up, it deserves no trust.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
8080 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:58 pm to
Redfield should be in prison with Fauci and Birx
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1667 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:01 pm to
The next scamdemic will be to cover up jab deaths.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:04 pm to
This guy just demonstrates out loud he doesn’t understand how to even quantify risk and reward, much less weigh them against one another…but we should rely on his expected result.

The net result is people will be more afraid of bird germs. Maybe that’s the point.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:06 pm to
I read that as Robert Redford at first.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:34 pm to
I already survived bird flu
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
3818 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:41 am to
Ready for my stimulus check!
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:39 am to


Back in 2019, Bird Flu (H5N1) Gain of Function was resumed in the United States

quote:

Controversial lab studies that modify bird flu viruses in ways that could make them more risky to humans will soon resume after being on hold for more than 4 years. ScienceInsider has learned that last year, a U.S. government review panel quietly approved experiments proposed by two labs that were previously considered so dangerous that federal officials had imposed an unusual top-down moratorium ...




In 2011 they unleashed
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Inside the high-security Influenza Research Institute at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, two experienced scientists were pulling ferrets out of their HEPA-filtered cages on a Monday in December 2019. Another researcher, still in training, was also in the room to watch and learn.

One by one, the animals were put into a biosafety cabinet, where a solution was washed into their nostrils. It’s a procedure used to collect evidence of infection, and this particular experiment involved exposing the animals to a highly controversial lab-engineered strain of H5N1 avian influenza virus.

The virus they were working with that day was far from ordinary, and there should have been no room for the safety breach that was about to happen and the oversight failures that followed.

The experiment underway involved one of two infamous lab-made bird flu viruses that had alarmed scientists around the world when their creation became widely known nearly a decade earlier. In each case, scientists had taken an avian influenza virus that was mostly dangerous to birds and manipulated it in ways that potentially increased its threat to humans.

In nature, the H5N1 virus has rarely infected humans
. But when people have been sickened, usually through close contact with infected birds, more than half died. So it is fortunate that the H5N1 virus isn’t capable of spreading easily from person to person. If the virus were ever to evolve in ways that gave it that ability, it could cause a devastating pandemic.

And yet in late 2011 the world learned that two scientific teams – one in Wisconsin, led by virologist Yoshihiro Kawaoka, and another in the Netherlands, led by virologist Ron Fouchier – had potentially pushed the virus in that direction. Each of these labs had created H5N1 viruses that had gained the ability to spread through the air between ferrets, the animal model used to study how flu viruses might behave in humans.




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This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 1:54 am
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
16063 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:53 am to
Maybe there should be an audit of all the studies that Fauci approved to see what was tied to bird flu.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
5411 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:01 am to
And I hate to even go in this direction, but there is also the infamous Deagle 2025 population projections that dates back 10 or so years ago.



This one kept people up at night for a while. What did they know?

They always tell us what they are going to do before they do it.

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This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 2:45 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
4228 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:19 am to
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Regardless of the overblown Covid hysteria, he is absolutely correct that we should make significant preparations for the possibility of a future genuine pandemic.


They shot their wad already. If there ever is a real pandemic that hits again, nobody will listen to those people
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
5411 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:24 am to
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
1583 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 5:29 am to
It's all part of this election year's plan.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 5:35 am to
"Gain of function"

Simply put, any person involved in this - from funding to research - should be summarily executed.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
151403 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:18 am to
watch Ted Nugents wifes show on Pluto free TV. Ted breaks down with facts how with deer herds the govt caused deer disease. they all should be sent to Rikers. add cloud seeding (cue yoga girl) and other things they do in biochem labs and they want us all dead.

kids & adults that are drug addicts are dying from fentanyl tainted in their drug habits.

it has been said that China is doing it intentionally. we are at war. they want us dead and the govt and Biden, Obama, Bush's Clinton's get wealthy.

take Bidens announcement of suddenly taxing China. it is a lie. go read tCTH. It is a lie to cover that the CCP is our ruler while they kill with cartel drugs brought in.

no one trusts the CDC anymore. no one will comply with a lick of common sense. but think about it. you can't stop mandatory lockins unless you want to be arrested and die in jail. they want mail in ballots they have no shame.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
5411 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:26 am to
We are collaborating with China on it.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
9874 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:30 am to
Wasn’t there a bird flu in 08 time frame? Remember sitting in training while in the military. Is this the same one?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
151403 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:34 am to
dunno. I do vaguely recall a plandemic scare under Obama. the vaccines were stopped. it was a test run.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
26364 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:43 am to
That, ladies and gentlemen, is called fear porn.
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