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re: This is why the tornado grading scale needs to be changed…

Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:14 pm to
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So...why does the scale need to be changed?


He is saying the rating is based solely on damage not strength.

It would like a hurricane is cat 5 but gets rated as a cat 1 if it does no damage.

They really need 2 scales. Damage scale and strength scale.

Here’s another pic of it


Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:21 pm to
What if the scale is biased against people of color?
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:24 pm to
I get why he's saying it.

Playing devil's advocate, if the science community is in agreement with the ranking based on strength and destruction, then why change it just because there was a massive tornado that didn't damage anything?

It would seem to reason that giving the higher ranking due to devastation makes sense.

Why should a strong hurricane that stayed out in open water get the same ranking as a Labor Day, Camille, etc., that actually wrecked shite?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164386 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:40 pm to
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They really need 2 scales. Damage scale and strength scale.

How do you implement the strength scale when there won’t be uniform sampling of velocities? The only reason the gate to gate velocity was able to be sampled so well is because it was so close to the 88d. If this same tornado happened in a radar gap then no one would be saying this today.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8397 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:50 pm to
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He is saying the rating is based solely on damage not strength.


Today I learned that the Fujita scale is primarily a damage scale.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55007 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:29 pm to
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They really need 2 scales. Damage scale and strength scale.

I don't think they necessarily do at this point in time. Until we get more radar coverage, or more DOWs in the mix, a strength scale is only going to muddy the waters for the majority of tornadoes. We just don't have perfect radar coverage for every tornado-prducing storm (we never will), so for many tornadoes a "strength scale" would be at best extrapolation, and at worst outright guesswork.

And as far as the screen grab you posted, it awesome. Some of the coolest radar clips I have seen and saved have been from "low-end" tornadoes.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4053 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:01 pm to
I took that as to mean why does the grading scale even matter? Does something happen for a F4 tornado that doesn't happen for a F3?
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