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This is why the tornado grading scale needs to be changed…
Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:30 pm
The tornado had a gate-to-gate velocity reading of 260 MPH. Strong circulation could be detected up to 18,000 feet above ground level. Had this thing hit civilization it would have destroyed everything in its path. Thankfully it only damaged farmland. However, due to the way tornadoes are rated, this will only be an EF0/EF1.
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:43 pm to RollTide1987
Cousin lost his house he lived in and car in Tuscaloosa years back.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:47 pm to RollTide1987
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The tornado had a gate-to-gate velocity reading of 260 MPH. Strong circulation could be detected up to 18,000 feet above ground level. Had this thing hit civilization it would have destroyed everything in its path. Thankfully it only damaged farmland. However, due to the way tornadoes are rated, this will only be an EF0/EF1.
So...why does the scale need to be changed?
Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:48 pm to RollTide1987
Thing looks like a mini hurricane.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:55 pm to RollTide1987
Not everything needs an official ranking or a scale, it was a catastrophic storm and it’s very sad what happened
Posted on 5/1/24 at 4:55 pm to RollTide1987
YIKES!
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:35 pm to RollTide1987
F5?? Was Brock Lesnar there?
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:37 pm to RollTide1987
The tornado in New Iberia not too long ago carved a path about 3 miles from my house, I'd say.
It destroyed the tall building at the hospital and then went into that subdivision behind La 87. My neighborhood backs up to that one.
It destroyed the tall building at the hospital and then went into that subdivision behind La 87. My neighborhood backs up to that one.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:38 pm to RollTide1987
Mother Nature at her worst….
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:41 pm to RollTide1987
I’m sure that the scale made sense back when they didn’t have the kind of reporting they do now. All they really had to go on was how much destruction it caused. But yeah, since they can now measure the tornado then it would make sense to change the scale.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 6:35 pm to RollTide1987
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The tornado had a gate-to-gate velocity reading of 260 MPH.
That’s not necessarily a great method for rating them either because winds like that may not have translated to the surface. Going by damage allows the rating to be based on what was actually happening at the surface rather than hundreds or thousands of feet up. Radar estimated wind speeds are also impacted by how close the storm is to the radar site (i.e. the height of the radar beam).
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:01 pm to RollTide1987
I get why people think this but there’s no way to accurately measure surface level wind speed on every tornado. You can accurately and (mostly) easily measure damage for every tornado.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:03 pm to RollTide1987
TIL there's a city of Chattanooga in Oklahoma
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:31 pm to RollTide1987
quote:cuz equity... no tornado left behind. The "F" in EF is racist. Ranking them by numbers is also racist because the higher the number, the darker the cloud.
This is why the tornado grading scale needs to be changed…
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:01 pm to RollTide1987
It was a beast... and slow moving. Marietta and Sulphar got it the day before.. These things are terrible...
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:05 pm to RollTide1987
If they would stop fricking around with the weather then we would not be having this conversation. Oh, I must be crazy to think they frick with the weather on purpose - Dubai says “hold my beer”
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:43 pm to RollTide1987
I would've sucked to have been in the lone trailerhouse in the path of this beast. If you lived and when people ask you what size tornado you survived, all you could say is lame-arse EF1 and not "the most powerful tornado on record".
shite I'd say the latter
shite I'd say the latter
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:22 pm to RollTide1987
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The tornado had a gate-to-gate velocity reading of 260 MPH. Strong circulation could be detected up to 18,000 feet above ground level. Had this thing hit civilization it would have destroyed everything in its path. Thankfully it only damaged farmland. However, due to the way tornadoes are rated, this will only be an EF0/EF1.
There was nothing on the ground to get anywhere near a sigtor, much less a violent tornado.
This......
......is a problem and a huge red flag. The Velocity data on that storm has issues.
While true that this tornado did not hit a town, thankfully, there were plenty of DIs in the damage area to survey. None of them came close.
Brett Adair's damage video.
I've watched too many tornadoes on radar that I just "knew" were violent tornadoes only to see them produce no damage near violent limits. Radar is not the end all when it comes to tornadoes (or any storm). Wind may be the aspect that is lagging farthest behind in radar understanding as it relates to ground truth.
This wasn't a violent tornado, no matter what pixels anyone picks off of a frame.
ETA:
We can look at this another way, using another controversial tornado, the 2013 El Reno tornado. It didn't get an EF5 rating because when it was at its strongest it was in an actual open field. Yet, there were still enough DIs to give it an EF3 rating. This tornado seems to have had more opportunity to create damage than the 2013 El Reno tornado, but only managed EF1 damage.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:28 pm to RollTide1987
the ef5 tornadoes that touched down in 2011 dug trenches 2 feet deep and ripped pavement from roads
that's how you can tell if a tornado was an ef5
that's how you can tell if a tornado was an ef5
Posted on 5/2/24 at 7:37 am to RollTide1987
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The tornado had a gate-to-gate velocity reading of 260 MPH. Strong circulation could be detected up to 18,000 feet above ground level. Had this thing hit civilization it would have destroyed everything in its path. Thankfully it only damaged farmland. However, due to the way tornadoes are rated, this will only be an EF0/EF1.
It’s a problem of the era the scale was created in.
Back when the Fujita scale was made, radar technology had not advanced enough to be able to tell strength and vertical reference of tornadic producing storms.
So, the only way to classify them was by how much damage they inflicted as they passed by.
Nowadays we have better technology, so another classification system, or a rework is necessary.
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