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re: Costs of the new prison sentence legislation in LA

Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112784 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:57 am to
Yes, more funding will fix our degenerate state
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124272 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:59 am to
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Reducing parole eligibility is going to cost us a lot of money. With our population shrinking, I wonder how the state plans to pay for the extra expenses of incarcerating people for longer periods. I'm curious what other people's thoughts are.
My thought is there is a cost to crime. There is a societal incentive to limit it. Perhaps the solution is some sort of severe corporal punishment (caning, etc) combined with abbreviated sentences?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50423 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:02 am to
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My thought is there is a cost to crime. There is a societal incentive to limit it. Perhaps the solution is some sort of severe corporal punishment (caning, etc) combined with abbreviated sentences?


I would imagine most people would actually support this in favor of increased incarcerations, which has been proven for decades to be ineffective (just look at recidivism rates).

I haven't searched for it, but I vaguely recall a study or article by a prison abilitionist that did advocate for this and demonstrated that corporal punishment like caning did lead to an decrease in crime.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8375 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:02 am to
They don’t have ac. You propose starving?
End private prisons
Allow more work release

Curious how much is made off of commissary, phones, and email?

Who gets that money?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50423 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:03 am to
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Curious how much is made off of commissary, phones, and email?

Who gets that money?


There are SO many scandals about this!

If you want to go down a rabbit hole later.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50423 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:05 am to
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Allow more work release



Employment is the single biggest factor impacting recidivism. If someone is able to find work, they stay out of jail.

3 downvotes for an established fact?
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 9:36 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24779 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:09 am to
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Do you plan on contributing to the discussion or are you just going to make fart jokes on the periphery?



Wait, noting that our resident autist, SroFroPedo, has posted in this thread is a fart joke? Hunny, he really did post here. There wasn't no jokes being said. You can literally look at the post I replied to and see it is axchually him


Also I support your premise of speedrolling executions in order to get these animals off of our tax dollars. You're spot on with this.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96544 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:12 am to
Daycare subsidies won’t change kids whose parents indoctrinate them that whitey is evil and All Cops Are Bastards.

Unless you plan on having a “lost generation” of kids taken away from their parents to be raised in a boarding environment, a lot of those kids will be fricked from birth due to their home life. Enabling that shite because it is “their culture” worsens their prospects rather than improves them because it normalizes behavior that you don’t want.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:13 am to
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Our resident autist has chimed in

Correcting easily-spotted straw man arguments doesn't require autism
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2651 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:13 am to
It's much more costly not to lock them up.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2651 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:16 am to
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I’m pretty sure that cable tv isn’t the problem.


I'm pretty sure that coddling criminals, babying them and not making them adequately suffer the consequences of their actions is a major fricking problem.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9142 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:16 am to
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Now, the daily reimbursement rate for state inmates is $107. The annual cost of incarcerating one person is $39,274. We currently have more than 28,300 people in prisons across the state.


What a deal. So it is only costing $4.48 an hour to babysit and feed them. Now look at how much money is being paid by the prisoners to use the phones.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50423 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:19 am to
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Daycare subsidies won’t change kids whose parents indoctrinate them that whitey is evil and All Cops Are Bastards.


These aren’t adverse childhood experiences that are scientifically proven to diminish a persons lifelong mental and physical health.

Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2651 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:20 am to
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Somehow Jeff Landry wants MORE incarceration in this state, can’t make this shite up.


Have you looked up Louisiana's rankings with regard to violent crime, murder, the numbers of criminals free to commit crimes with long criminal histories, over the last few decades? Louisiana needs more incarceration. There's a reason Louisiana's incarceration rate has been so high for years now... and contrary to what you and your fellow libs believe about "muh The New Jim Crow," and "racism," the numbers are completely warranted. And they should be higher. Louisiana needs to be utilizing the death penalty frequently too.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2651 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:20 am to
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Do you walk around Louisiana and think more people should be out of jail?




Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2651 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:25 am to
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Employment is the single biggest factor impacting recidivism. If someone is able to find work, they stay out of jail.


Such bullshite. You have to WANT to work. The problem is many of these dirt bag pieces of shite don't WANT to work. Or they think they should be be doing some shite job but making $30/hr... or should make as much as they can make selling drugs, robbing, burglarizing etc. Well, sorry. That's now how the real world works. No one is forcing them to be criminals. You make shitty choices, you pay the consequences. Deal with it.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24779 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:33 am to
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Correcting easily-spotted straw man arguments doesn't require autism



^ how to spot an autist
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6611 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:37 am to
Costs must be reduced. Prisoners at Angola used to grow their own food. Do they still do this ?
Angola is huge, there is no reason that they could not raise cattle, chickens and pigs. In addition they could grow beans .
They could use the cow hides to make their own shoes.
They could also learn how to build their own housing.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50423 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:38 am to
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Such bullshite. You have to WANT to work


How does your rant disprove the fact that employment is the biggest indicator of recidivism?

Something isn’t bullshite just because you don’t like it. I can cite studies if you’re interested.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96544 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:39 am to
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These aren’t adverse childhood experiences that are scientifically proven to diminish a persons lifelong mental and physical health.


It is anecdotally shown to increase the chances that a child will resist any instruction they don’t want to deal with and act as if they are being persecuted for being asked to follow rules or the law.


IOW, it seriously raises the chances of having an antisocial individual who thinks they can do whatever they want and blames “the man” when they finally get told “no” by the cops and the courts.
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