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re: What are the rules for running red light on a continuing left?

Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:04 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35542 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:04 am to
It looks like as long as you put your flashers on you'll be ok.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15051 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:06 am to
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I think he's saying you take a left at a green light, onto the neutral ground area, but you are immediately met with a red light. Do you wait in the neutral ground area or continue to run the red light.

Exactly. These are all over the place. Here's a map of one over by the West Esplanade canal - the red and green dots and arrows show the lights and flow of traffic.

If you are traveling westbound and turn left (south) you're immediately hit with a red light. Can you treat that red light as a stop sign (which is what I was told) or do you have to wait.



https://imgur.com/a/5y6Z2Th

This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:07 am to
He did not word it well but I know exactly what he's talking about. When you were in the left turning lane and it turns green, but the perpendicular light is still red, do you go? I go every single time. You back up traffic if you stop in the neutral ground.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8358 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:20 am to
It’s a justification selfish people make for breaking the law
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36206 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:21 am to
Only allowed from a one-way street to another one-way street.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
5003 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:44 am to
no you stop at the red light until it turns green. If you treat it like a stop sign and and cause an accident you will be held 100% at fault
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Osaka
Member since Nov 2003
3300 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:50 am to
If there is the thick solid white line on the cross street you are turning onto from your original street, you're supposed to stop at that line and wait until you have a green light. It doesn't matter if you had been travelling straight or turning onto that street.

If there is no solid white line, that space is not intended to have cars stopped there, and you should continue the turn when there is no oncoming traffic.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21870 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:51 am to
I think he’s referring to a situation where he pulls into the intersection when the light is green, but unable to turn cause of oncoming traffic. Then the light turns red, so he “clears the intersection” after oncoming traffic is stopped

I try to avoid doing this especially with my kids in the car, because some arse hole is going to run a red light and smash the back passenger door, where my kids sit. Ain’t worth the risk to save 2 mins. Leave earlier so you aren’t doing this to save 2 mins
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2664 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:59 am to
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Are you one of those frickheads that gets out into the traffic underneath the green light, only for it to turn red and then you go? Like that somehow doesn't make it illegal? Is that what you're talking about?

Because I want to stab those frickers in the neck. You wait at the line like normal people.


I suggest you never go to any major city
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150873 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:46 am to
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It is however LEGAL to turn left at a red light if you are on a one way, turing onto a one way..

Pisses me off so much that people don't understand that.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3141 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:56 am to
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To clarify for all the simpleton morons downvoting this, the highway or street you’re turning onto would have to be a one-way)

The road you are on before the turn will also have to be a one way.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13060 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

crash1211
excellent
quote:

The road you are on before the turn will also have to be a one way.
quote:

houma
even better... referencing Hwy 24
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9593 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:16 pm to
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If there is the thick solid white line on the cross street you are turning onto from your original street, you're supposed to stop at that line and wait until you have a green light. It doesn't matter if you had been travelling straight or turning onto that street.

If there is no solid white line, that space is not intended to have cars stopped there, and you should continue the turn when there is no oncoming traffic.

This, I believe, is the correct answer. It comes down to whether cars are intended to stop in the “cutover” across the median/neutral ground, or whether that cutover functions more like a “wide yellow line.”

If the intersection is designed well, the intent should be fairly clear. For example on North Blvd in downtown BR, it’s obvious that cars turning left are expected to stop in the median. There are white “stop bars” and multiple sets of traffic signals (e.g. one over the median and one at the entrance to the cross street) to make it fairly clear that if you’re turning left, this traffic light still applies to you.

Alternatively, I’ve seen other intersections where the light is intentionally placed directly over the median so that turning drivers don’t really see it. Another tell is that if there’s not room to pull a car into the gap without blocking traffic, the red light probably isn’t intended for you.

I realize Metairie is less obvious sometimes, but using the example that OP posted:

.. I mean, let’s think about this. Let’s say you’re traveling west on W Esplanade and make a left turn there. If the light is red, who else could it possibly be intended to stop?

The cross street doesn’t even continue past Esplanade. The only people the red light could possibly be intended for are folks turning left off of Esplanade. So if you “continue through” that light, yes - you are running a red light.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42403 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Let’s say you’re traveling west on Esplanade
what the frick is this? You’re either going towards the river or the lake

That’s Metairie not NOLA
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13452 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:20 pm to
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a rule of thumb, not a written law.


Good luck getting to turn if you don’t.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7322 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:21 pm to
If you’re lake bound on north Carrollton and want to turn left onto City Park Ave, there is a sign saying left turn on green permitted. Is this the traffic maneuver you’re talking about?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42403 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:22 pm to
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If you’re lake bound on north Carrollton and want to turn left onto City Park Ave,
on Orleans, too, right?

I think you mean Orleans
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9593 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

what the frick is this? You’re either going towards the river or the lake

OP is the one who said westbound.
quote:

That’s Metairie not NOLA

Fair point.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
598 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:29 pm to
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 8:53 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43234 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

If there is the thick solid white line on the cross street you are turning onto from your original street, you're supposed to stop at that line and wait until you have a green light. It doesn't matter if you had been travelling straight or turning onto that street.

If there is no solid white line, that space is not intended to have cars stopped there, and you should continue the turn when there is no oncoming traffic.
Best answer imo.
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