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Where not to visit in 2018
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:33 am
This list changes things up a bit.
12 Places not to visit in 2018
Some of these on the list are relative to the past.
Some are just absolutely crushingly busy.
I can attest there are a ton of people at the Taj and Machu Picchu, though, I did hit the Taj during a Muslim holiday or something so it was mostly locals. The local male and female lines had hundreds of people in it while the tourist line was walk right on in. Felt like Drew Brees coming out the tunnel.
MP did a decent job of disseminating the people around since the site is pretty big.
12 Places not to visit in 2018
Some of these on the list are relative to the past.
Some are just absolutely crushingly busy.
I can attest there are a ton of people at the Taj and Machu Picchu, though, I did hit the Taj during a Muslim holiday or something so it was mostly locals. The local male and female lines had hundreds of people in it while the tourist line was walk right on in. Felt like Drew Brees coming out the tunnel.
MP did a decent job of disseminating the people around since the site is pretty big.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:06 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Agree on Venice, Santorini, Cinque Terre. Some places have become mere shells catering to tourists. Too many other beautiful places to keep overcrowding the same ones. Dunno why some travel and only seek out the exact kind of hotels and amenities they experience at home. Local often crumbles in the chase for tourist dollars.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:05 pm to hungryone
I know Santorini is a touristy hell, but...I kind of want to go there.
We are planning a Grecian Isle trip and plan on going to Naxos, but I would like to at least see Santorini, even though I know its crazy touristy.
We are planning a Grecian Isle trip and plan on going to Naxos, but I would like to at least see Santorini, even though I know its crazy touristy.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:40 pm to Fun Bunch
Stay in Oia away from the crowds and go to the back side of the island for a more local experience - vineyards etc.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:47 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Cruises seem to be the major culprit behind most of the over crowding.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:22 pm to Dizz
I can imagine being somewhere when a cruise floats in is akin to when a Chinese tour bus rolls up on you.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:35 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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I can imagine being somewhere when a cruise floats in is akin to when a Chinese tour bus rolls up on you.
It's so much worse--typical tour bus is 40-60 ppl. Maybe four buses on a big organized tour. Compare that with a medium sized cruise ship at 1,500 people, or a mega ship at 3k to 5k. Two ships at once can easily overwhelm the tourist infrastructure of a good sized town/small city.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:30 pm to hungryone
You must have not been somewhere when the Chinese show up. It isn't one bus.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:46 pm to Dizz
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Cruises seem to be the major culprit behind most of the over crowding.
They ruin Dubrovnik. It is so much nicer if you go offseason when the ships aren't around.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:25 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
The amount of Machu Picchu Facebook posts I’ve seen in the past few years is unreal
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:32 pm to TheIndulger
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The amount of Machu Picchu Facebook posts I’ve seen in the past few years is unreal
Ya, I know it's Millennial generalizations, but if it's true that we "value experiences more" and travel more, with a good economy it's going to be frequent. Not to mention I also read an article that we also tend to try to do things others don't, hence why Antarctica travel is up and my arse will be in Myanmar later this year
MP is really accessible too. It's a 4.5/5 hour flight to Lima from Houston and then an hour to Cusco. A couple hours after that you're at the base.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:20 pm to TheIndulger
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The amount of Machu Picchu Facebook posts I’ve seen in the past few years is unreal
Doing the 5 day hike in hopes of missing the larger campsite crowds... but I'm all about hiking to choquequirao to avoid the people and seeing some ruins in a more abandoned state.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:50 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Antarctica travel is up
Yeah, but it's REALLY expensive (especially for millennials) and Antarctica is a big place so I doubt it's really being overrun. This is the one on the list I plan to do in a couple of years when I hit retirement.
Machu Picchu is one I'll probably have to do but have been avoiding because of the crowds and the fact that there are things I'd rather do instead. But it's only going to keep getting more crowded. I may hit it for a day or two within the next few years, but as part of a trip that focuses on Manu.
Cinque Terre - It's a shame it's getting overrun. We did it 25 years ago and it was my favorite spot in Italy that summer. Not too many people on the trail back then but it's easy to see why so many go there now.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:19 pm to Tigris
We went to Cinque Terre a few years ago in March. It was pretty deserted. We also went to Venice on that same trip. It was pretty packed, such that I'd hate to see to it in summer.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:56 am to Teddy Ruxpin
A few things off the top of my head:
-The internet plays a huge role in this. There's almost not a single place in the world you can't read a blog or review about.
-Travel is becoming super cheap. Flights are insanely cheap internationally today, making it easier for the average person and young people to not think twice about hopping a plane halfway across the world.
-The younger generation right now seems to value the "nomadic" lifestyle over their parents lifestyle (i.e. buy a house, have kids, 9-5 job, etc). That definitely allows them to travel more.
-And I'll say the internet again. It's the number one thing IMO. Even 20-25 years ago it was much more of an unknown to travel somewhere even a little obscure. I doubt you could find much travel information on a place like Bhutan besides books and whatnot. Now you can find a million guides on how to get there, what to do, where to stay, etc. It's much less daunting for the average traveler.
-Also I laugh at Antarctica on this list. Is 45,000 people really that bad for the largest continent on Earth? And I'm sure it's only possible to visit a very tiny spot on the entire continent.
Eta: Machu Picchu was indeed crowded when I went a couple of years ago. But they limit the number of visitors, and if you have no qualms going early and staying late, there will be times when you feel all alone at certain spots on the mountain.
-The internet plays a huge role in this. There's almost not a single place in the world you can't read a blog or review about.
-Travel is becoming super cheap. Flights are insanely cheap internationally today, making it easier for the average person and young people to not think twice about hopping a plane halfway across the world.
-The younger generation right now seems to value the "nomadic" lifestyle over their parents lifestyle (i.e. buy a house, have kids, 9-5 job, etc). That definitely allows them to travel more.
-And I'll say the internet again. It's the number one thing IMO. Even 20-25 years ago it was much more of an unknown to travel somewhere even a little obscure. I doubt you could find much travel information on a place like Bhutan besides books and whatnot. Now you can find a million guides on how to get there, what to do, where to stay, etc. It's much less daunting for the average traveler.
-Also I laugh at Antarctica on this list. Is 45,000 people really that bad for the largest continent on Earth? And I'm sure it's only possible to visit a very tiny spot on the entire continent.
Eta: Machu Picchu was indeed crowded when I went a couple of years ago. But they limit the number of visitors, and if you have no qualms going early and staying late, there will be times when you feel all alone at certain spots on the mountain.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 8:00 am
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:12 pm to rintintin
With the internet now, the reality is you don't go to the traditional places for culture anymore. Everywhere tourism is a factor now is marketed to tourists. It's likely not going to change in the foreseeable future.
But I don't understand why this board can't understand and separate that. Venice, Italy and many of those other places are still incredibly unique and worth seeing, you simply don't go there for their culture. You go off the beaten path for the true culture.
But I don't understand why this board can't understand and separate that. Venice, Italy and many of those other places are still incredibly unique and worth seeing, you simply don't go there for their culture. You go off the beaten path for the true culture.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:59 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
This is a major reason we went to Italy in the off season last year. Avoided tourists, missed the heat and still got to see it all. Plus it was like $1000 less a person
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:33 pm to rintintin
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Also I laugh at Antarctica on this list. Is 45,000 people really that bad for the largest continent on Earth?
Actually Antarctica is less than a third of the size of Asia, less than half as big as Africa, and even smaller than both America's.
Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:31 pm to baldona
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Venice, Italy and many of those other places are still incredibly unique and worth seeing
Agreed. I wouldn't spend more than two days in Venice, though. You can see most everything in that short time. Ride down the Autostrada a couple of hours and visit Verona, Padua, Montova, etc. These are fabulous towns with lots of art, history, culture, etc. without the overflow of Venice.
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