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re: Walt Disney World Resort Parking 2018
Posted on 3/16/18 at 11:55 am to Lsupimp
Posted on 3/16/18 at 11:55 am to Lsupimp
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Disney has become a joke. It's the most unapologetic gouging in America. How about I just take my family of five to BC or Europe and call it a day.
100% agree...but I have a young child now that wants to go. Hopefully, he is satisfied after 1 trip and wants to do other things.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:11 pm to speckledawg
I'm a HUGE believer in taking the kids to Disney. I'm not knocking the experience, I'm knocking the gouging. You start to feel less like a valued customer and more like a peasant.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:12 pm to speckledawg
Staying onsite is the most overpriced unnecessary cost of the trip that people overlook. I’ve never paid a dime for a hotel there due to Marriott points and they have properties right next door. And I’m in a 2 bedroom condo with pools bigger than anything Disney has to offer with the option of eatinf offsite when I want. I’d argue I can get to the gate quicker via driving than most can from onsite too. And I don’t rely on their transportation for anything other than a Magic Kingdom monorail.
The park tickets are roughly $1000-1200 for a week for my family depending on park hopper options which is ridiculous but most places cost a ton now. Dollywood is expensive too (and they have better roller coasters by far) compared to just a decade ago. But if you love your kids it isn’t about the money. I’ve been twice within a year and I haven’t thought about the financial loss I took. But the memories last forever.
Pick a good week to go and you won’t deal with crowds.
The park tickets are roughly $1000-1200 for a week for my family depending on park hopper options which is ridiculous but most places cost a ton now. Dollywood is expensive too (and they have better roller coasters by far) compared to just a decade ago. But if you love your kids it isn’t about the money. I’ve been twice within a year and I haven’t thought about the financial loss I took. But the memories last forever.
Pick a good week to go and you won’t deal with crowds.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:22 pm to Lsupimp
No doubt. I have started casually planning and looking at costs and it has blown my mind. I compare this to trips we have taken all over the world for much less...
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:26 pm to Clark W Griswold
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but got to Animal Kingdom early to beat the Avatar crowds. We were 3rd in line.
Not to derail, but how freaking early did you get there? I think we made the mistake of going on the magic hour day. But we arrived at the gate at 7:41 and we were in line for Avatar at 7:59 and the line was 120 minutes. Too freaking long to wait with a 2 and 4.5 year old.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:30 pm to speckledawg
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I have started casually planning and looking at costs and it has blown my mind. I compare this to trips we have taken all over the world for much less..
If you stay at a value resort (which frankly sucks) or off site for under $200/ night, go for 5 or more days to get the value in your tickets, and don't do a lot of sit down dinners, then the prices really are not that bad.
They get me with beers, with my little kids I simply get bored and start to have some beers.
But its 12 hours of entertainment for your kids for $55-80/ day. When you think about that, its really not that expensive. There's not much you can do for under $10/ hour per person.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:22 pm to baldona
Do they still offer free dining plans or other promotions certain times of the year? Last time we went, we got some kind of promotion that knocked almost $1,000 off the price. We were there Sunday through Saturday, one day not at the parks, and I think we paid around $2,000 for a moderate property. I didn't think that was too bad for a week for a family of 4. Once down there, I think we spent another $500.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:49 pm to Clark W Griswold
We've only ever stayed onsite, and when the kids were younger it was money. Being at the Polynesian or the Contemporary with young kids is great. Easy to get to MK, easy to get to epcot, and easy to run back to the hotel room.
If you have someone that is a DVC member, just rent their points if they aren't using them. We booked a room at the Polynesian two years ago for 6 nights, and it cost us 1200.
If you have someone that is a DVC member, just rent their points if they aren't using them. We booked a room at the Polynesian two years ago for 6 nights, and it cost us 1200.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:38 pm to baldona
Park opened at 9. Parked at 7:20. They had about 50 people wandering around by the gate where you scan your magic bands and enter. Everyone lines up to the left. We went to the right where empty spots were and they eventually opened all of them. So just because they force everyone to form a line doesn’t mean those other entry points won’t work. Sure enough right before 8:30 they opened them all up.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:15 pm to Boss
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If you have someone that is a DVC member, just rent their points if they aren't using them. We booked a room at the Polynesian two years ago for 6 nights, and it cost us 1200.
Renting DVC points is the way to go and you don't need to know anyone. Just go to any of the reputable rental sites. We are going during Christmas week and staying at an Epcot resort for the price of a moderate. Going again next Mardi Gras and it will be the cheapest trip we have had thus far and we are staying at the Poly.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:06 pm to Buck Dancer
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the crowds have gotten so big all the time
Its been interesting to read lately the stats on this.
In reality the crowd sizes have gone down but wait times have gone up. WDW has produced greater profits with smaller attendance due to higher prices and being able to lower operating costs (due to smaller attendance).
By reducing attraction capacity they've reduced attraction wear and tear, reduced labor costs, but increased wait times with smaller attendance numbers.
There are quite a few conspiracy theories out there that they are headed to tiered multi day ticket pricing soon so there are some who believe they are intentionally increasing wait times now during slower times of the year simply so they can charge more for them when pricing becomes tiered.
The avg wait times for the month of Jan 2018 was a 7/10. The only weeks in 2017 to have higher avg wait times than the avg for the month of Jan was Easter and Christmas.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 3/17/18 at 8:44 am to lsucm10
I have to think this is to pay for the increasing security at the resorts.
Pretty much every resort I've been to in the last couple of years now has increased security at the drive in entrances.
Disney has really stepped up its security game in the last 3-4 years due to the obvious target risk.
Pretty much every resort I've been to in the last couple of years now has increased security at the drive in entrances.
Disney has really stepped up its security game in the last 3-4 years due to the obvious target risk.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:22 pm to LSUfan4444
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The avg wait times for the month of Jan 2018 was a 7/10. The only weeks in 2017 to have higher avg wait times than the avg for the month of Jan was Easter and Christmas.
Eh, here's the thing though is that Jan and Feb are historically the times they shut down rides for repair and refurb. I went in early February last minute because they had $79/ night plus tax Mon-Wed rooms at the all-stars and then $44/ day tickets for residents. The water parks are also closed.
So I think there's just enough less stuff to do to make it stay very busy, but Disney still seems to be running plenty of deals in order to get attendance.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:59 pm to baldona
Random thoughts and responses here.
I dont have a link now but the wait time articles are getting into things wait timea in 2018 being as high as the buaiest times in 2017, even taking unto account ride refurbishments. People are out thefe counting the numbers coming off rides and seeing differences on week days and weekends on rides with no announced refurbishments. I was there for Mardi Gras and nothing big that absorbs visitors was shut down. Crows calendara had wait times at 8-10 level.
Feee dining was around last year but it always rumored to not return (because the slow periods dont really exist anymore so less need for the promotion).
Other discounts I try not to frsme differently. I think of them like the Jos A Bank sales from a few years ago. Prices are jacked up and charged and paid at the busiest times (christmas, etc). The rest of the year they know the market rate is less so the discount brings down the prices people will actually pay while making is feel better about getting a "discount."
We stayed off site on this trip at Wyndham Bonnet Creek and enjoyed it. It costs us under $1K for one week one bedroom. If anyone is looking to save money thats one way to go.
I don't think Disney isn't charging resort guests just because it can or to beef up security because I still think of Disney parking and security costs as baked in the resort nightly cost. They don't need to charge, say, $23/car for parking when they can charge $13/room a night more and get the same revenue. To specifically charge cars is to discourage cars to keep people on site. Without a car, fewer take a day trip to Universal or Seaworld or go off site for dinner, which ultimately is more money spent at Disney. Without a car it even feels like more of a hastle for people considering a split Disney/Universal trip.
I dont have a link now but the wait time articles are getting into things wait timea in 2018 being as high as the buaiest times in 2017, even taking unto account ride refurbishments. People are out thefe counting the numbers coming off rides and seeing differences on week days and weekends on rides with no announced refurbishments. I was there for Mardi Gras and nothing big that absorbs visitors was shut down. Crows calendara had wait times at 8-10 level.
Feee dining was around last year but it always rumored to not return (because the slow periods dont really exist anymore so less need for the promotion).
Other discounts I try not to frsme differently. I think of them like the Jos A Bank sales from a few years ago. Prices are jacked up and charged and paid at the busiest times (christmas, etc). The rest of the year they know the market rate is less so the discount brings down the prices people will actually pay while making is feel better about getting a "discount."
We stayed off site on this trip at Wyndham Bonnet Creek and enjoyed it. It costs us under $1K for one week one bedroom. If anyone is looking to save money thats one way to go.
I don't think Disney isn't charging resort guests just because it can or to beef up security because I still think of Disney parking and security costs as baked in the resort nightly cost. They don't need to charge, say, $23/car for parking when they can charge $13/room a night more and get the same revenue. To specifically charge cars is to discourage cars to keep people on site. Without a car, fewer take a day trip to Universal or Seaworld or go off site for dinner, which ultimately is more money spent at Disney. Without a car it even feels like more of a hastle for people considering a split Disney/Universal trip.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:17 am to Parrish
We went for Mardi Gras and what most crowd calendars predicted as a 5-7/10 ended up being 8-9/10. We had a good plan and didn’t wait very long for anything but others we knew waited hours for everything. The crowds are getting harder to predict I think.
My gut feel is that Disney wants people to stop driving and utilize their transportation. Maybe this cuts down on Universal split vacations. Maybe it doesn’t. Maybe it allows Disney to control people onsite better and cut down on traffic concerns. Or maybe it’s just following the trend of hotels charging for parking in general and Disney as a company is hurting overall financially.
My gut feel is that Disney wants people to stop driving and utilize their transportation. Maybe this cuts down on Universal split vacations. Maybe it doesn’t. Maybe it allows Disney to control people onsite better and cut down on traffic concerns. Or maybe it’s just following the trend of hotels charging for parking in general and Disney as a company is hurting overall financially.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:27 am to Clark W Griswold
quote:I think you're probably right.
My gut feel is that Disney wants people to stop driving and utilize their transportation.
Look at all the changes they have in place recently or coming . I suspect the gondola system will have some sort of process that only people who stay in the resorts can use.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:38 am to Parrish
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don't think Disney isn't charging resort guests just because it can or to beef up security because I still think of Disney parking and security costs as baked in the resort nightly cost. They don't need to charge, say, $23/car for parking when they can charge $13/room a night more and get the same revenue. To specifically charge cars is to discourage cars to keep people on site. Without a car, fewer take a day trip to Universal or Seaworld or go off site for dinner, which ultimately is more money spent at Disney. Without a car it even feels like more of a hastle for people considering a split Disney/Universal trip.
That makes as much sense as anything else I guess. I just wonder how many people would alter/cancel their plans over an additional $100 added to the cost. I wouldn't, especially when I'm used to be paying for parking at hotels. But I guess the more budget conscience folks are more sensitive to it.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:27 pm to baldona
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here's the thing though is that Jan and Feb are historically the times they shut down rides for repair and refurb
Some attractions but those refurbs are annually. For the entire month of January to have higher wait times than every week than all but 2 weeks of 2016 is not for refurbs.
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Disney still seems to be running plenty of deals in order to get attendance
But attendance is down...revenue is up due to higher costs but attendance is down.
I dont have a link now but the wait time articles are getting into things wait timea in 2018 being as high as the buaiest times in 2017, even taking unto account ride refurbishments. People are out thefe counting the numbers coming off rides and seeing differences on week days and weekends on rides with no announced refurbishments. I was there for Mardi Gras and nothing big that absorbs visitors was shut down. Crows calendara had wait times at 8-10 level.
See below...I linked the discussion for anyone interested
The full interview with Len Testa of TouringPLans is on their itunes page and in the show notes of the link below) but if you go to the 33 minute mark of this you'll get a bit of what was seen by Touring Plans and some of the steps they did to track it.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 6:28 pm to LSUfan4444
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Some attractions but those refurbs are annually. For the entire month of January to have higher wait times than every week than all but 2 weeks of 2016 is not for refurbs.
Water parks are closed in the winter too. When I was there they were working on Nemo and River rapids at Animal Kingdom. Magic Kingdom is always slammed, and right now you have a smaller park due to expansion at Hollywood studios.
Oh yeah and Epcot the back part of the park between Norway and Britain were closed until 11am.
Combine all that, and believe me it was slammed when we went the first full week of February. AK and MK I was unhappy with, too busy for my liking. The other two parks were nice.
There's no doubt Disney wants you to stay on site. Food is expensive as hell between Breakfast and Dinner. Lunch isn't bad, you can do okay if you bring your own breakfast and eat a quick meal for dinner. But not many do especially for extended vacations.
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