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One month on the Appalachian Trail

Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:14 am
Posted by Arch Madness
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:14 am
Planning for a trip this summer spending up to a month on the AT, possibly solo. I'd start at the Southern Terminus, and maybe approach trail. I've been told to expect to reach Erwin, TN after one month. Is this reasonable at 10-15 mile a day pace?

Also since I haven't thru-hiked this long before, would there be options to resupply food stocks and other supplies when staying at hostels (at least receive a ride to town)? And what accommodations are needed ahead of time for the hostels?

I already have a tent, pack, and clothes, so what is a rough estimate of price for one month on the trail?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:31 am to
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Planning for a trip this summer spending up to a month on the AT, possibly solo. I'd start at the Southern Terminus, and maybe approach trail. I've been told to expect to reach Erwin, TN after one month. Is this reasonable at 10-15 mile a day pace?


What's that about Mile 250 or so? 4 weeks, 6 days on 1 zero day is about 10-11 a day. Should be doable for anyone, but give yourself a cushion in case you have issues and need some extra off days.

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Also since I haven't thru-hiked this long before, would there be options to resupply food stocks and other supplies when staying at hostels (at least receive a ride to town)? And what accommodations are needed ahead of time for the hostels?


Yes and mail drops. Get on Whiteblaze.com, get the guthook app, buy the trail guide. plan your days, mail drops and resupplies. You can usually call day of or a few days before on the hostels to set a reservation or they accept walk ups, unless they are full.


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I already have a tent, pack, and clothes,


Do you have stuff that you can pack for 250 miles? like weight wise and toughness? Whats is your base pack weight?

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what is a rough estimate of price for one month on the trail?


You can do your own food. But really sans everything else(equipment), you are food, fuel, and zero days for on the trail cost


ETA Since your end point is after the smokeys you might need to reserve shelter space
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 11:27 am
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:21 pm to
I have hiked between 7 miles and 18 miles depending on the terrain (Colorado). I schedule for ten and usually am strongest early on and weaken over time because I'm really creaky now. If I could get 12.7, that's better than 11.1, you know what I mean? I get the miles any time I can early so I can coast later. Stretching legs and back regularly is my key, every hour and one 20 minute stretch at mid-day. Also blister care. That will wreck you and end your hike if you aren't prepared. Never count on "hostels" or beds when any trail is crowded. Somebody here did an EPIC Appalachian Trail thread, but I don't remember his name. He did the whole trail. Yikes. Mad Respek. I can't even imagine how it feels when you get to that last stretch.

If you have time google Shikoku Henro. That's my long term bucket list hike of a lifetime goal.
Posted by Arch Madness
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Yes and mail drops. Get on Whiteblaze.com, get the guthook app, buy the trail guide. plan your days, mail drops and resupplies. You can usually call day of or a few days before on the hostels to set a reservation or they accept walk ups, unless they are full.


Got it. But are the mail drops sent to a local post office that you go pick up at the end of a segment?

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Do you have stuff that you can pack for 250 miles? like weight wise and toughness? Whats is your base pack weight?


I have an osprey atmos 65L pack. The tent is a 2 person kelty, a little heavy, so I'm trying to buy a used z-packs tent, cause it'd be cheaper. Do you know any other light weight tents you'd recommend?

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ETA Since your end point is after the smokeys you might need to reserve shelter space


Can you not just stealth camp in the smokeys? Are reservation included in a permit (I didn't think thru hikers needed one)?

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I have hiked between 7 miles and 18 miles depending on the terrain (Colorado). I schedule for ten and usually am strongest early on and weaken over time because I'm really creaky now. If I could get 12.7, that's better than 11.1, you know what I mean? I get the miles any time I can early so I can coast later. Stretching legs and back regularly is my key, every hour and one 20 minute stretch at mid-day. Also blister care. That will wreck you and end your hike if you aren't prepared. Never count on "hostels" or beds when any trail is crowded.


One of the times I hiked for a week, my knees were shot, so I have bought some Leki poles to help out. I'm young and in shape, but after 15 miles, I start to get anxious if I have to go farther. How many pairs of shoes do you bring when hiking?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:32 pm to
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Got it. But are the mail drops sent to a local post office that you go pick up at the end of a segment?



Yes or some hostels will take them as well.

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I have an osprey atmos 65L pack


Pretty big for the AT, but doable

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The tent is a 2 person kelty, a little heavy, so I'm trying to buy a used z-packs tent, cause it'd be cheaper.


There are a lot of them. Zpacks is cuben fiber, they cost a lot. you can find some premium silnylons for 3-400 new. Summer, you might think hammock with and light under quilt and top blanket

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Can you not just stealth camp in the smokeys?


No, you must use a shelter or stay right outside if full. Through hikers get priority


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How many pairs of shoes do you bring when hiking


Your main shoes and maybe camp shoes. But if you use trail runner(recommended) you dont really need them

Do you live in GA now?


Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:36 pm to
I bring two and a lightweight waterproof boot only for emergencies. I also bring ( don’t laugh ) a roll of electrical tape for emergencies. A friend taught me that years ago. But I pack for 3/4 day hikes , not 30 day hikes. I’ll do some stuff this Summer in Italy and sleep in a bed every night.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:19 pm to
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have an osprey atmos 65L pack.


You need to downsize. I use an Osprey 60 for long trips where I can't add supplies. You'll be able to and having 4.5 lbs of empty weight is too much to dedicate to for a month.

Grams=ounces

Drill that in your head!

Eta....your pack can handle 50 lbs. If you carry more than 30 you are either taking too much stuff or don't have good quality gear.

The lighter something is in that world the more it costs. It's not cheap.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:20 pm to
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I also bring ( don’t laugh ) a roll of electrical tape for emergencies.


Duct tape is better.

To save space don't carry a roll. Put it on your trekking poles, nalgene, somewhere.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:42 pm to
Of course I mean duct tape. Brain fart. Electrical tape would be worthless.
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 5:09 pm to
LINK /

A great resource. Lots of lightweight packing tips found there.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:08 pm to
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If you carry more than 30 you are either taking too much stuff or don't have good quality gear.


For the at and 6 days of food plus water 40lbs it not uncommon.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:18 pm to
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For the at and 6 days of food plus water 40lbs it not uncommon.


I didn't say it wasn't common but that is a reachable benchmark.

A lot of people carry too much, plain and simple. If they make it, more power to them but it isn't ideal and you know that.

Eta....i at the for the AT.

Why do people think it's a different animal because it's the AT? It's hiking, it doesn't change.

Actually, it does change. It's easier because of all the people and resources available.

This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:30 pm to
It’s not any different just saying what I see quite routinely out there for through and section hikers. I’m out on the Georgia section every few weeks. I’d say most are in the 30-40 with the ultra lights and guys with high end gear under that. Then the novices looking like they are on some boot camp march with gear two feet over their heads.

My base weight is under 20 for anything other than sub 30 weather fwiw.

And yeah the resources, road crossings, and just general trail maintenance make it one of the more accessible trails for any level
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:34 pm to
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My base weight is under 20 for anything other than sub 30 weather fwiw.


I'm very light, besides the pounders of beer and red bull
Posted by Arch Madness
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Do you live in GA now?


No, but I lived in Gainesville (GA) not too long ago and am familiar with the region. I have family still within 2.5 hours of the start point.

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You need to downsize. I use an Osprey 60 for long trips where I can't add supplies. You'll be able to and having 4.5 lbs of empty weight is too much to dedicate to for a month. Grams=ounces Drill that in your head! Eta....your pack can handle 50 lbs. If you carry more than 30 you are either taking too much stuff or don't have good quality gear.


Yeah, that's why I pour all food into zip lock bags and carry dried food like knorrs, mashed potato flakes, and oatmeal. Also snack on trail mix, and sometimes carrots. It felt like at least 35-40 lbs when I went on a 1 week hike last year at the start, albeit my tent is pretty heavy...does one take both tent and eno on thru hikes?

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A lot of people carry too much, plain and simple. If they make it, more power to them but it isn't ideal and you know that.


I mean maybe some people, but I know better than that. Just got to have a couple changes of clothes, tent, food, water filter (sawyer squeeze), and backpaking stove. The other shite like lighters, notepad, and headlamp, barely take more than 2 lbs combined. Probably could get it down to 35 max if I get nicer tent, but I also need to find a power block for charging. Any suggestions?

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I'm very light, besides the pounders of beer and red bull


Why wouldn't you just carry liquor?
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 7:25 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:46 pm to
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 my tent is pretty heavy...does one take both tent and eno on thru hikes? 
no, although I carry a lightweight pad also in case i want to stay in a shelter

If you go hammock try before your trip. It's not for everyone. You can find great used gear tent as well on whiteblaze or hammocks on hammockformum

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Just got to have a couple changes of clothes
worn pair, 1 extra, and sleep. Many don't even do the extra.

What's your stove?

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 Why wouldn't you just carry liquor?


I use an alcohol stove with everclear when I want booze. Helps with weight
Posted by Arch Madness
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:25 pm to
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What's your stove?


Just some no name brand mechanistic screw top fold out thing. Some dude showed me I can just rig a sheet of aluminum foil around it as a wind screen. The foil folds up small.

How do you keep your phone charged on the trail? You said you were using the guthooks app. I also carry a GPS watch so I need a way to keep those things juiced up
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:41 pm to
I have a small sheet of aluminum I got from Home Depot. Fits in my pot. A lot more rigid than foil. So your stove fits on the the small canisters like jet boils or the slightly bigger green Coleman fuels?

Phone battery life takes precautions like dimming screen, turning off lots of stuff, not looking at it and I have a lightweight battery pack that will recharge my iPhone about 4-5 times
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 9:31 pm to
You will need a permit for the Smokies. You have to stay in shelters unless they are full.

How much backpacking have you done?

A long hike is just a series of shorter hikes put together. Don’t think of 250 miles, think 50 miles from town to town or however they space out.

Get Guthooks map for your phone. Awols guide also good reference.

Try stove less. I go stove less for most of my hiking and love it. I’m out there to hike not wait for food to rehydrate. Plus nothing tastes as good as a cheese burger or pizza and beer so I keep things simple.

Take less crap. It’s less to carry and not lose in the woods. It’s easy to get to 20 lbs baseweight. Just don’t take stuff. Lower than that cost money.

Don’t overthink things. It’s just walking in the woods. Your never far from civilization. But don’t take things lightly. One fall and you are miles from help with a blown out knee(I helped someone out that it happened to)
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Why wouldn't you just carry liquor?


I do
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