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Las Vegas Resort Fees: Federal Bill Would Require Advertised Rates to Include All Charges
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:32 am
Casino.org
I am posting this because I find the dynamic really interesting. As a local, unless you worked on the strip you avoided the it at all costs. Traffic, inflated prices, low payouts, dumb tourists, etc. The locals are really getting behind this. They know it is hurting their bread and butter. I am glad to see this is getting addressed. It will force casinos to roll it all into one rate thus bringing competition back into the market.
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Resort fees go by a variety of names – venue fee, destination fee, facilities fee, amenities fee, even urban resort fee. In Las Vegas, casinos say the add-on charge is for Wi-Fi, boarding pass printing, free local calling, and fitness center access. They’re now as high as $45 a day at Strip luxury properties, such as the Bellagio, Wynn, and Venetian/Palazzo.
“For years, I went to Las Vegas four or five times a year. Haven’t been in 2019 at all. I’ve had it. I don’t know who they think they are, but this can’t continue,” a Casino.org reader commented. A king room at Encore tonight has an advertised rate of $159. But with the $45/day resort fee, the true price of the occupancy is actually $204 – a more than 28 percent markup. With taxes, the guest is paying $231.30. If $45 a day isn’t bad enough for free calls and Wi-Fi, it’s worth noting that the resort fee is also taxed (based on the county hotel occupancy tax rate of 13.38 percent) – $6.02, in this instance.
The latest money grab by casinos came with news that “venue fees” were being imposed on cocktails at certain Strip properties. “We were going to Vegas in October. But after reading all the fees and charges on drinks, we are going elsewhere,” Kathy Wilson told Casino.org. Lawsuits Pending The attorneys general for Washington, DC, and Nebraska have respectively filed lawsuits against Marriott International and Hilton Worldwide for participating in drip pricing – a technique where an online retailer advertises one price, then incrementally increases the cost through mandatory fees. Marriott CEO Arne Sorenson says resort fees aren’t any different from an airline charging for a checked bag. Opponents say they are, as a checked bag fee isn’t mandatory for passengers.
“Travelers shouldn’t have to read the fine print to figure out all the fees they’ll be charged for staying at a hotel,” Consumer Reports director of financial policy Anna Laitin declared. “Hotels should be required to disclose all fees in their advertised rate, so consumers won’t get stung with a higher bill than what they’re expecting to pay when booking a room.”
I am posting this because I find the dynamic really interesting. As a local, unless you worked on the strip you avoided the it at all costs. Traffic, inflated prices, low payouts, dumb tourists, etc. The locals are really getting behind this. They know it is hurting their bread and butter. I am glad to see this is getting addressed. It will force casinos to roll it all into one rate thus bringing competition back into the market.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 12:18 pm
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:34 am to jmarto1
Odd that it’s taken this long for people to be vocal about this. Hasn’t this been going on for years?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:51 am to Paul Allen
As long as I can remember. I usually go back home at least once a year. Cannot remember when the didn't hit me up on this.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:35 pm to jmarto1
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“We were going to Vegas in October. But after reading all the fees and charges on drinks, we are going elsewhere,”
I get everything but statements like this. I despise hiding of fees also, but if everything is on the up and up is anything going to actually be cheaper? Its pretty doubtful and if so not by much.
So the people that say the fees are atrocious I'm going elsewhere, well they never would have been able to plan to go in the first place due to the price.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:49 pm to baldona
no fricking shite. i have to stay at the mirage for a conference this month and the final cost for 3 days @ 250/day was $1,000 
thats some shite-arse hidden taxes & fee games going on. glad i'm not paying that.
thats some shite-arse hidden taxes & fee games going on. glad i'm not paying that.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:30 am to CAD703X
Geez, what is going on in vegas? I've never seen mid strip that expensive
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:31 am to jmarto1
I'm very much in favor of this. It is very frustrating to budget a trip based on a $200/night advertised price only to find out it is $275/night when you add in all the fees.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:25 pm to DumpsterFire
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I'm very much in favor of this. It is very frustrating to budget a trip based on a $200/night advertised price only to find out it is $275/night when you add in all the fees.
The worst is booking online only to have them tacked on the final bill, it just pisses me off.
Who really GAF about the fee amount it is just the dishonesty of it.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 7:50 am to jmarto1
They should make hotels roll in taxes too. I paid a “health insurance tax” on a stay in San Francisco a couple weeks ago. I think total was around 20% in taxes
Posted on 10/5/19 at 8:18 am to jmarto1
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As a local, unless you worked on the strip you avoided the strip at all costs.
I had a gf that lived in Vegas, and it was like 2 different worlds.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 9:16 am to yellowfin
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too. I paid a “health insurance tax” on a stay in San Francisco a couple weeks ago. I think total was around 20% in taxes
Gross.
But to the OP.. I am all in on that . Transparency up front is big to me like others in the thread
This post was edited on 10/5/19 at 9:17 am
Posted on 10/5/19 at 10:07 pm to jmarto1
I’ll be surprised if it passes. Almost no consumer protection laws get out of Congress anymore. They are bought and paid for by the business interests that use such deceptive practices.
There is no money for a Congressman in supporting laws that help ordinary citizens.
They did establish The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, but certain political interests have fought it tooth and nail since it was established, so it’s accomplished very little.
There is no money for a Congressman in supporting laws that help ordinary citizens.
They did establish The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, but certain political interests have fought it tooth and nail since it was established, so it’s accomplished very little.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 11:09 pm to Paul Allen
quote:The bigger scam are the local convention and tourism taxes and rental car/hotel taxes imposed on travelers. Example: in DFW, you rent a car or a hotel room, you pay taxes and fees that help pay for Jerry World, or the convention center.
Odd that it’s taken this long for people to be vocal about this. Hasn’t this been going on for years?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 7:38 am to Lawyered
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But to the OP.. I am all in on that . Transparency up front is big to me like others in the thread
Exactly. Why can't they be forced to list the real price and then a normal tax rate like everything else in the damn world.
Who cares about all these stupid fees just give me a real number. If every hotel has the same ones then roll it into the damn price.
I know there's 15 different taxes included in a gallon of gas. Do I want to see them all? Nope.
Same way I felt about my daughter's college orientation where I was forced to sit for 4 hours and listen to them justify the 100 different mandatory fees I had to pay.
Just give a number! It makes me feel much worse to hear what each of those stupid fees is for.
It's like they're rubbing it in my face I'm paying made up crap like a campus building access fee.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 7:44 am
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:38 am to jmarto1
Nothing annoys me more than looking for a vacation spot using hotel rewards points. Then finding out stays booked with points have a per-guest, per-day fee applied to them.
Some are absolute insanity ($75pp+/day). And more often than not it’s for things that as an elite member I’d get for free at every other non-resort hotel (wifi, breakfast, etc.)
Some are absolute insanity ($75pp+/day). And more often than not it’s for things that as an elite member I’d get for free at every other non-resort hotel (wifi, breakfast, etc.)
Posted on 10/6/19 at 3:03 pm to jmarto1
Who goes to Vegas and stays at the Wynn then complains about 45 extra a day
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:12 am to SDVTiger
Every hotel is doing this. The locals have been pissed off since they started charging for parking. Resort fees are fuel to the fire.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 2:29 am to jmarto1
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Every hotel is doing this
They have been doing this for a long time now
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The locals have been pissed off since they started charging for parking
So? Why being a local would you drive to the strip to party and chance an encounter with Nevada Staties on the way back vs uber or a limo
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Resort fees are fuel to the fire.
So you are not going to stay at the Wynn cause of an extra 150 but will gladly pay 12 for a Cornona or 68 for a bucket of beers
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:16 am to jmarto1
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Every hotel is doing this. The locals have been pissed off since they started charging for parking. Resort fees are fuel to the fire
Do they hotels care about the locals? As said, you can uber...I wouldn't think locals is much of a business for them? I don't know honestly asking?
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:18 am to HubbaBubba
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The bigger scam are the local convention and tourism taxes and rental car/hotel taxes imposed on travelers. Example: in DFW, you rent a car or a hotel room, you pay taxes and fees that help pay for Jerry World, or the convention center.
How is this a scam? Tourists don't pay local taxes outside of when they visit. Places like Vegas and Beach towns have tons of expenses due to tourists such as larger police and fire departments, more road use, etc. that local municipalities have to budget. Making visitors pay for what they use seems pretty fare to me.
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